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Where is all this "Dominant New Orleans D" stuff coming from?
The latest violator is Cold, Hard Football Facts who say that the Saints have a "shutdown D." Earlier this week, Peter King said that their win over the Giants was the most "complete" game of any team this year...and they gave up 27 points.
Honestly, they gave up 7 to Buffalo, 10 to the Jets, 22 to Philly, 27 to the Giants, and 27 to the Lions. Not exactly a Murderer's Row there. The Pats have given up less points in more games to better offensive teams and are still old and soft.
I just don't understand these kinds of things.
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Re: Where is all this "Dominant New Orleans D" stuff coming from?
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Originally Posted by Fixit
The latest violator is Cold, Hard Football Facts who say that the Saints have a "shutdown D." Earlier this week, Peter King said that their win over the Giants was the most "complete" game of any team this year...and they gave up 27 points.
Honestly, they gave up 7 to Buffalo, 10 to the Jets, 22 to Philly, 27 to the Giants, and 27 to the Lions. Not exactly a Murderer's Row there. The Pats have given up less points in more games to better offensive teams and are still old and soft.
I just don't understand these kinds of things.
They don't have a shutdown D. Their offense is making up for their deficiencies on defense. Truth is, without Drew Brees, they would be a 3-13 team. With that said, the game against them later this year will be tough. I think it will come down to whoever plays better on D. I don't see their defense stopping us, or our defense stopping their offense.
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Re: Where is all this "Dominant New Orleans D" stuff coming from?
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Originally Posted by Fixit
The latest violator is Cold, Hard Football Facts who say that the Saints have a "shutdown D." Earlier this week, Peter King said that their win over the Giants was the most "complete" game of any team this year...and they gave up 27 points.
Honestly, they gave up 7 to Buffalo, 10 to the Jets, 22 to Philly, 27 to the Giants, and 27 to the Lions. Not exactly a Murderer's Row there. The Pats have given up less points in more games to better offensive teams and are still old and soft.
I just don't understand these kinds of things.
What??? Dude their defense is great. The only reason they gave up so many points to the the Giants and Lions is due to the fact that all those teams just throw to play catch up. Our 2007 team was exactly the same.
Re: Where is all this "Dominant New Orleans D" stuff coming from?
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Originally Posted by TommyBrady12
They don't have a shutdown D. Their offense is making up for their deficiencies on defense. Truth is, without Drew Brees, they would be a 3-13 team. With that said, the game against them later this year will be tough. I think it will come down to whoever plays better on D. I don't see their defense stopping us, or our defense stopping their offense.
WOW. Wheres the highly disagree button here. While i agree without Brees their not as good a team but you can plug in any other avererage to above average QB and still get 11 wins with that team.
Re: Where is all this "Dominant New Orleans D" stuff coming from?
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WOW. Wheres the highly disagree button here. While i agree without Brees their not as good a team but you can plug in any other avererage to above average QB and still get 11 wins with that team.
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Re: Where is all this "Dominant New Orleans D" stuff coming from?
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What??? Dude their defense is great. The only reason they gave up so many points to the the Giants and Lions is due to the fact that all those teams just throw to play catch up. Our 2007 team was exactly the same.
For the D, they are 11th in ave yard per pass play, 10th in ave rush, 9th in ave yds per game (big deal) 17th in sacks, 1st in INTs, 25th in forced fumbles (Pats are #1) and 9th in scoring D giving up 18.6 ppg.
I've watched them a couple of times, and my eyes tell me that they are a good D. But shutdown? God no.
Quite frankly, I think the Pats are just as good in all areas except the run D.
My .02$
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Re: Where is all this "Dominant New Orleans D" stuff coming from?
Their defense is better than it has been in years past and they are a more complete team now, but they are just the flavor of the year. The reason the mediots are drooling over them and not the Pats is simple: the Pats are the bad guys of the NFL, and the Saints are this year's sweethearts so far. Not much there...
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Re: Where is all this "Dominant New Orleans D" stuff coming from?
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I ment how you said the supporting cast of the Saints is good enough to get 11 wins with an average quarterback. Were like that too.
team: 2008 pats- Matty Cassel
haha good point. it flew right over my head!
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For the D, they are 11th in ave yard per pass play, 10th in ave rush, 9th in ave yds per game (big deal) 17th in sacks, 1st in INTs, 25th in forced fumbles (Pats are #1) and 9th in scoring D giving up 18.6 ppg.
I've watched them a couple of times, and my eyes tell me that they are a good D. But shutdown? God no.
Quite frankly, I think the Pats are just as good in all areas except the run D.
My .02$
Their stats are also not telling the whole story. OUr 2007 D was better than most gave credit for and at times we were about 15th ranked D, because all teams did was throw throw throw. Those throws no matter how far behind inflate those stats to look worse.
But i do agree that our defense is similar especially in backfield play.
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Originally Posted by KontradictioN
Their defense is better than it has been in years past and they are a more complete team now, but they are just the flavor of the year. The reason the mediots are drooling over them and not the Pats is simple: the Pats are the bad guys of the NFL, and the Saints are this year's sweethearts so far. Not much there...
Im rooting for the Saints every week. Pats vs. Saints Super Bowl.
Where is all this "Dominant New Orleans D" stuff coming from?
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