Columnist: T.O.'s star has "drastically fallen" - Page 2 - New England Patriots Forums

***PatsWickedPissah*** · 10-22-2009, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Gwedd

Yup..

Thing is, though, is that I do feel for Buffalo. They're a great little franchise, they usually play with heart and have a truly outstanding fan base.

They've had a number of bad breaks, and a number of self-inflicted wounds, too, especially with their owner.

That team and fan base deserve better, that's all I'm sayin'..

It's trendy to trash hapless Bills fans because like every other team, a few yahoos cheered Brady's hit, but I agree with your sympathies. Poor, poor Bills fans. They don't even have the illusion of success that each season excites then crushes brash Jets fans and arrogant Phins fans.

***BradyFTW!*** · 10-22-2009, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Gwedd

That may be true, but TO's wounds are almost all self-inflicted.

You have to have an ego to be a great wide receiver. However, the great wide receivers also know how to use a dash of humility to temper the ego and keep it in check.

TO has always been an arrogant, egotistical d-bag. Never stopped him from being one of the most productive WRs of his era. Nope, this one falls squarely on the offense that he's playing in: it's by far the worst-coordinated offensive unit in the NFL, and it's helmed by a crap QB.

And Bills fans can go **** themselves. Aside from maybe Jets and Steelers fans, nobody celebrated more when Brady went down. Frankly, I hope that crap city loses its crap franchise, since the Bills are all that they have (as sad as that is).

***robertweathers*** · 10-22-2009, 07:18 PM

The NFL has outgrown Buffalo in many ways. It has been run poorly and their stadium is a dump. That org is simply behind the times and doesn't know how to catch up.

edelmansarmy · 10-22-2009, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by robertweathers

The NFL has outgrown Buffalo in many ways. It has been run poorly and their stadium is a dump. That org is simply behind the times and doesn't know how to catch up.

Yep. Either Buffalo or Jacksonville is going to end up in LA.

***apple strudel*** · 10-22-2009, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KontradictioN

T.O. just needs a quarterback that can get him the ball.

Why? So he can drop it in high leverage situations?

***KontradictioN*** · 10-22-2009, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by apple strudel

Why? So he can drop it in high leverage situations?

His drops never stopped him from piling up well over 1,000 yards to go along with quite a few TD's almost every season he's played the game. His production is unquestionable. It was always his attitude and his ego that have been the problem.

***apple strudel*** · 10-22-2009, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by KontradictioN

His drops never stopped him from piling up well over 1,000 yards to go along with quite a few TD's almost every season he's played the game. His production is unquestionable. It was always his attitude and his ego that have been the problem.

And total lack of clutchness. And significant wins. He's just not a winner.

***KontradictioN*** · 10-22-2009, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by apple strudel

And total lack of clutchness. And significant wins. He's just not a winner.

I wasn't aware that T.O. is not only a wide receiver, but is also an entire team, coaching staff, training staff, and front office.

***apple strudel*** · 10-22-2009, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by KontradictioN

I wasn't aware that T.O. is not only a wide receiver, but is also an entire team, coaching staff, training staff, and front office.

He's also a guy with lots of people making lots of excuses for him, apparently.

Pujo · 10-22-2009, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by apple strudel

Why? So he can drop it in high leverage situations?

He's had some drops, but so has Randy Moss, and every other good receiver. No, T.O.'s problem, in my opinion, is his borderline mental illness. I don't say that with contempt, either, I think he has a problem and could benefit from professional help, but of course he's rich, famous, and an athlete, so he won't try to get it.