mikey

What does it say about our players when former players like David Patten is a big disappointment with the Redskins and that the Redskins' resurgence came after Patten was deactivated.

Just look around the league. Former Pats players like Woody, Andruzzi, and Smith are disppointments playing for losing teams. Nobody picked up Rohan Davey until Cards recently. And Troy Brown hardly received any FA offer.

Which leads me to question if we are "overpaying" many of the players. We keep bringing up "home town discount", but the reality is that many of these players may be getting paid more than what they could get from other teams.

The fact is that the Patriots now have one of the highest payrolls in the league, much higher than the Colts. But the team is still very dependent on very few key players like Brady. Which means that many in the supporting casts are getting more than their market value.

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drew4008

If they succeed in our system, they deserve fair market value. Who knows if Manning would work on another team, or if Alexander or LJ would do anything without their great OLs, but regardless, they're going to get big contracts for what they do in their systems.

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Box_O_Rocks

As the team starts playing better, you just can't help backsliding into troll status.

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shatch62

The Pats put a dollar amount on a player (or position) and pay that amount. They don;t go crazy and over pay.

As for disappointments, I think Patten has to be considered one but Andruzzi and Smith are not. Andruzzi has helped Cleveland get a running game. Cleveland has not had a 1,000+ rusher in something like 20 years. Smith has done well as a back up. In the two years he has been out of NE he has carried the ball 287 times for 1113 yards and 7 TDs. Not Pro Bowl numbers but a lot of times would take that from their #2 back.

Most of the guys that have left the Pats were older guys that had already had their best years. Washington, Milloy, Patten etc were all 30ish or older. The only guys that were "young" were Andruzzi and Woody and the Pats don't like to tie a lot of $ up in O-linemen.

mikey

I am not trying to sound like a "troll", as a previous poster is trying to insinuate.

Just asking what I thought is a legitimate question.

I am trying to reconcile that fact that we have one of the highest payrolls in the NFL, yet we only have 2 legitimate Pro Bowlers.

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Box_O_Rocks

Insinuate nothing, if you could see the games from under the bridge you'd know our talent is as good or better then most teams, and slightly underpaid by comparison.

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desi-patsfan

you dont base how good a player is by the number of pro bowls he goes to do you? How many has Rodney gone to? He is/was one fo the best SS in the game? Mike VIck is a pro bowler and did nothing. Mark Brunell had a much better year and didnt make the pro bowl.

mgcolby

How is Vrabel not considered a Pro Bowler? Neal? Harrison (when healthy), Givens and Branch play at a pro bowl level they just don't get 80 catches because brady spreads the wealth. Light is a pro bowl tackle when healthy, Miller should have made the Pro Bowl and lets not forget Tedy. We have plenty of pro bowl talent, they just don't get the votes from the fans because the Pats are "Boring Team".

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Willie55

2 pro-bowlers = 3 Super Bowl Rings.

I dont care if these guys never get picked up by another team after they leave New England as long as he brings another championship here.

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JoeSixPat

I think what you're noticing says a lot about the best teams finding the "right" players for their team... players that fit in the locker room, players that fit into the scheme of the team

when you select your team like BB and SP do, the sum of the whole truly is greater than the parts

That's not to say these former Patriots can't find the same thing elsewhere, but its tough to do and it absolutely takes time

For example - Andruzzi - Romeo scooped him up precisely because of his leadership, experience and locker room presence, hoping he would be an example for the rest of the team to follow

But Crennel doesn't have the luxury of replacing his entire team in one year, so it is understood that the impact of Andruzzi's presence might not be felt for quite sometime - indeed, the tone Andruzzi sets for the rest of the line might not be fully felt until after he is gone or retired

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