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condon84 · 10-13-2009, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Lockdown06

he helped us win the buffalo game...caused mckelvin to fumble

That's true. He's a special teams guy. I don't think he belongs in with the regular defense though. Can't shed blocks, can't rush the passer. It was good to see Ninkovich get some time in there and make a play.

pencilneckgeek · 10-13-2009, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by condon84

Pierre Woods was the worst player I saw on Sunday. Has he ever done anything?

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Originally Posted by Lockdown06

he helped us win the buffalo game...caused mckelvin to fumble

And Eric Alexander got the Ravens game off to a good start with his strip on the opening kickoff, but we're not ready to line him up on defense. Still, Woods is a reasonably stout defender against the run. His tackling is much more sure than prior years. He just doesn't stack-up in coverage, so he won't get a lot of snaps.

Lockdown06 · 10-13-2009, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by pencilneckgeek

And Eric Alexander got the Ravens game off to a good start with his strip on the opening kickoff, but we're not ready to line him up on defense. Still, Woods is a reasonably stout defender against the run. His tackling is much more sure than prior years. He just doesn't stack-up in coverage, so he won't get a lot of snaps.

I'm not trying to defend him as a complete defender - mcgahee was his responsibility when he caught the TD in the raven's game, and he's certainly the weakest of the linebackers that actually gets playing time - I do think he's useful as a role-player though, and that was more my point. Now that Mayo's returned I doubt Woods sees the field much - guyton, mayo, and thomas are our best 3 lb'ers, and when we go to a 3-4 i'd rather see burgess in as a rushing lb than woods

chris66 · 10-13-2009, 12:40 PM

I didnt read this entire thread, but bottom line is if this offense doesnt score at least 20 a game. the pats will be losing quite a bit

If the offense had scored at least 1 point in the 2nd half we win this game.

***HEY BRO! WHAT UP?*** · 10-13-2009, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bbell31

meriweather was in great position all nite but missed/blew by several what should have been routine tackles for him
Yes, especially the last run by Moreno that put them into field goal range in overtime.

mankins, overrated like ive always said, struggled picking up his blocking assignments in run game..

If you're talking about that 3rd and 1 the Pats didn't convert, it was the right idea (running the ball) but a stupid play call. Because the defensive is most likely going to crash many defenders, it's not the brightest idea to get cute with your O-line and pull guards (Mankins). I don't blame Mankins, I blame the call

koppen couldnt stay on a block long enuf
he gets overpowered too much

kaczur overall played quite well
Yes he has.

neal inconsisent
They need to replace him next season

vollmer nice job
He did a great job in limited action

brady was f' n inconsistent again, missed huge throws in the most critical times
It's disappointing. You can only use the injury card for so long

mcgowan played terrific overall
He was a good find

springs played well just unfortunate on the marshall touchdown, almost perfect position
Springs had great position but just turned around a tad too late.

adalius thomas played awful, especially setting the edge against the run..he could be outa here next year..i wasnt high on him last year
He has been really disappointing and I noted in an earlier thread, he needs to take a pay cut to stay with the team. When Mayo returns to full health, I expect the Pats to make Adalius more of a rusher.

mayo's weakness is obviously pass coverage, zone or man...guyton kills him in this department
Guyton has been pretty good, I'm surprised they still have Thomas in coverage and not rushing the passer.

wilfork is beast
he made a clutch tackle on that screen play to Moreno. He absolutely came out of nowhere

jonathon wilhite is one of our weakest corners and he's a pus# as well, but i will admit he has improved from last year and can be a pretty good backup
I'm not a fan of this guy at all. Not only does he blow coverage, he acts like he's hurt on almost every play he is involved in. It's a matter of time before Butler takes over

patriots 12-4 superbowl champs if no major injuries in 2009
As of right now, they don't look like a super bowl team. Brady really needs to get it together.

My comments are obviously in bold.

condon84 · 10-13-2009, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by pencilneckgeek

And Eric Alexander got the Ravens game off to a good start with his strip on the opening kickoff, but we're not ready to line him up on defense. Still, Woods is a reasonably stout defender against the run. His tackling is much more sure than prior years. He just doesn't stack-up in coverage, so he won't get a lot of snaps.

I missed the part of the game where he showed this.