Ian Needs To Clarify What Is Acceptable - New England Patriots Forums

***mgteich*** · 10-12-2009, 04:28 PM

I guess there must be severe strains on the capability of the board. I have not seen so many threads closed since I started posting on the internet.

In the past two weeks, so many threads have been closed that I think Ian needs to clarify what is acceptable. I read just read a thread suggesting that Belichick should call all the offesnive plays. As was the case yesterday for it seemed dozens of threads, the thread was closed.

And no, I don't understand having only one thread of hundreds of posts to discuss various aspects of a given game and trends going forward. It seemed better in the past when folks who wanted threads on various aspects were free to post them.

This is just my two cents. I think this is a great board, with lots of great posters. And I think that Ian does a great job and is free to have whatever rules he wishes on his site.

It is just that I have been personally frustrated with the change in policy and the new censorship.

BadMoFo · 10-12-2009, 04:33 PM

Oh boy, another thread to close.

**Ian** · 10-12-2009, 05:15 PM

mgteich - I clarified it in the other thread. To be honest your threads are a great example of what we need to start some insightful and interesting discussions. Some of the stuff that comes out on the heels of a loss gets to be a bit too over the top. The threads that were closed were ones that started off fine but became ugly - so there have been a bunch that I shut down. Some were quick rants that were getting in the way of better threads.

The postgame thread is just to prevent 10 threads of similar discussions immediately after the game, especially after a loss when they tend to involve a ton of negativity. As I said if you were here late last night and first thing this morning you would have seen what I meant. Things are just now returning to normal now that we've had a full day to recover.

As I said in the other thread, all I'm saying is if someone is going to start a new topic that you simply consider the following: "if you're going to criticize something or question it, please do so in a manner where you outline what you feel is wrong, and what you think they should do to fix it." That at least gives people something to discuss or debate. Saying so and so "sucks" or "needs to go" doesn't do that.

That's it - so I'm not trying to censor anything. Again - I'm just trying to encourage everyone to offer threads that we can discuss, because saying someone "sucks" without saying why isn't productive and doesn't allow us to have a good discussion with that thread. Nor do we need 7 threads that are similar but with slight differences. You've been here for nearly 10-years and have been a great poster and a mod, I'm sure you would agree with that.

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Originally Posted by mgteich

I guess there must be severe strains on the capability of the board. I have not seen so many threads closed since I started posting on the internet.

In the past two weeks, so many threads have been closed that I think Ian needs to clarify what is acceptable. I read just read a thread suggesting that Belichick should call all the offesnive plays. As was the case yesterday for it seemed dozens of threads, the thread was closed.

And no, I don't understand having only one thread of hundreds of posts to discuss various aspects of a given game and trends going forward. It seemed better in the past when folks who wanted threads on various aspects were free to post them.

This is just my two cents. I think this is a great board, with lots of great posters. And I think that Ian does a great job and is free to have whatever rules he wishes on his site.

It is just that I have been personally frustrated with the change in policy and the new censorship.

PATRIOTSFANINPA · 10-12-2009, 05:23 PM

Frankly its very simple- For the success of the Combo of Bill Belichick and Tom Brady we don't need any crybaby spoiled members posting Belichick/Brady sucks threads ..despite free speech and all per say

Its a team effort and even though some players like Maroney for example deserve a little criticism for lack of effort and productivity, Brady and Belichick are two men that stand out to deserve better and more respect - win OR lose.

***BradyFTW!*** · 10-12-2009, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by PATRIOTSFANINPA

Frankly its very simple- For the success of the Combo of Bill Belichick and Tom Brady we don't need any crybaby spoiled members posting Belichick/Brady sucks threads ..despite free speech and all per say

Its a team effort and even though some players like Maroney for example deserve a little criticism for lack of effort and productivity, Brady and Belichick are two men that stand out to deserve better and more respect - win OR lose.

That's not the policy at all... try again.

**Ian** · 10-12-2009, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by PATRIOTSFANINPA

Frankly its very simple- For the success of the Combo of Bill Belichick and Tom Brady we don't need any crybaby spoiled members posting Belichick/Brady sucks threads ..despite free speech and all per say

Its a team effort and even though some players like Maroney for example deserve a little criticism for lack of effort and productivity, Brady and Belichick are two men that stand out to deserve better and more respect - win OR lose.

That's not exactly what I'm saying - I'm simply saying that for anyone who starts a new thread, just take some time to put together your thoughts before you post them so that for those of us who'd like to participate in your thread we have something to work off of

PATRIOTSFANINPA · 10-12-2009, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Ian

That's not exactly what I'm saying - I'm simply saying that for anyone who starts a new thread, just take some time to put together your thoughts before you post them so that for those of us who'd like to participate in your thread we have something to work off of

Oh O.K., My wrong assessment of the rules

**Ian** · 10-12-2009, 05:59 PM

Also - the Postgame thread is like the actual "Official Game Thread".

Imagine the board filled with 30+ threads during the game about similar subjects - it doesn't make a lot of sense since it would be hard to follow live discussion that way - hence the reason why we have the "Game Thread".

I decided the PostGame thread could be used the same way - it gives people a chance to bounce their immediate thoughts off of everyone else, and after things cool down we can start actual threads to break down and discuss different aspects of the game.

So that's really all I'm trying to accomplish - hopefully that clarifies things a bit further.

***IcyPatriot*** · 10-12-2009, 06:02 PM

I think the censorship is good. Too many guys start threads because they feel a need to be noticed. Like they have what really needs to be discussed even though there's already a thread for it.

- Things like: "I don't know if this has already been discussed"

- "I know there's already a thread ... but..."

and many more ... take the time to read the threads and contribute ... if nobody responds to your post well then "it is what it is" ... so what.

I don't make threads anymore ... there's already enough and the regulars are excellant at covering all the topics at hand ... join in to discussions already made ... be part of the team.

PATSYLICIOUS · 10-12-2009, 06:08 PM

It's too hard to clarify anything on this board. I'm just glad more threads are being closed and I think that's about the only way to handle it. Hopefully people will eventually get the point if enough similarly pointless threads get closed.

It always seems to happen after a loss when one person will complain about Dean Pees, another will complain about the team having no heart since 04, another about being fed up with Maroney, literally about 10 one line threads that can simply be thrown in the postgame thoughts thread. I guess these ground-breaking observations must be heard somehow someway and paid attention to.

Another thing that might help is a post count requirement in order to be able to start a thread. My suggestion would be somewhere around 2,200