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Old 10-07-2009, 03:06 PM   #61
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No you're right, you asked how I would feel if Suggs brushed close to Manning like he did Brady and to come back and let you know.

Manning has been playing since 98. Do you honestly think he hasn't taken shots that make Suggs falling towards Brady and barely touching him look like the joke it was?

If Manning gets hurt, by playing football, so be it.

Joe Theisman got hurt. Joe Montana got hurt. Johnny U got hurt. Dan Marino got hurt. McNabb got hurt. Aikman got hurt. Young got hurt.

QB's get hurt.
Yeah! Lets screw all rules and go back to three yards and a cloud of dust! Seriously, what's your point?
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No you're right, you asked how I would feel if Suggs brushed close to Manning like he did Brady and to come back and let you know.

Manning has been playing since 98. Do you honestly think he hasn't taken shots that make Suggs falling towards Brady and barely touching him look like the joke it was?

If Manning gets hurt, by playing football, so be it.

Joe Theisman got hurt. Joe Montana got hurt. Johnny U got hurt. Dan Marino got hurt. McNabb got hurt. Aikman got hurt. Young got hurt.

QB's get hurt.
QBs do get hurt. Not a lot of them get hurt on attempted dirty hits. If you don't think it's dirty then perhaps you can try to explain how Suggs went from an upright running position to falling without tripping over anything or being pushed by ANYBODY? Please feel free to watch the video and let all of us know...

YouTube - Suggs Cheap Shot on Brady

Good luck as well. Bronco fans really couldn't figure it out either. They just kept coming back and said, "it wasn't dirty. It was a weak call", without really explaining ANYTHING that they saw from the video. I suspect you'll probably do the same.
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Responding with insults. Imagine a Pats fan doing that.

The call was ridiculous (IMO). Maybe it was within the rules, but the refs have to use discretion. If they called every penalty the game would be one nonstop flag fest. The refs use discretion on most calls right? There isn't a machine that makes calls or a formula they use.

Calling a penalty on that Suggs play is a joke.
Was talking about the hand to the head Ngata penalty.

Called correctly, just like the similar penalty on Wright that perhaps you haven't noticed not many here are complaining about.

But the Ngata one is the only hand to the head penalty that happened, right? Stop being disingenuous. There was the same call on Wright. Ignore it all you want, but it occurred.
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Yeah, Manning has never had a low shot thrown his way before. No other QB in the league has ever had to step out of the way of a rusher like Brady.

No other QB has ever been hurt before.

I wonder how non-Patriot fans would respond to something like that?

Like Bill (Rules Committee) Polian?

What a ridiculous hypocrit!

Get a clue.
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I haven't ignored anything, I said I didn't get to see the game. Just the Suggs play.

The rule is horrible. That's my point. Doesn't matter if it's called on the Pats or against them.

This isn't a Pats thing, it's a dumb rule thing.
You sure did ignore my post though. Go back to my last one, watch the video, and please explain IN DETAIL why that was not a dirty shot.
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I haven't ignored anything, I said I didn't get to see the game. Just the Suggs play.

The rule is horrible. That's my point. Doesn't matter if it's called on the Pats or against them.

This isn't a Pats thing, it's a dumb rule thing.
Here's Tedy Bruschi with his answer to Bill Polian (:07-:20 of the video)

YouTube - Bruschi - You wanna to change the rules? - version 2

As I said REPEATEDLY, the RULE may be bad. The refs however, have to call by the rulebook. The CALLS were correct.
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I haven't ignored anything, I said I didn't get to see the game. Just the Suggs play.

The rule is horrible. That's my point. Doesn't matter if it's called on the Pats or against them.

This isn't a Pats thing, it's a dumb rule thing.

Why is anyone arguing with this clown?

The only reason this event is relavent is because the Pats benefitted. Where was this clown after the week one call on Wilfork?

What Dolt Boy doesn't want to admit is if it Manning vs Brady, the booth monkeys at ESPN and NFLN would be creaming over themselves to explain how smart Manning was for knowing the rules and officials.
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Why is anyone arguing with this clown?

The only reason this event is relavent is because the Pats benefitted. Where was this clown after the week one call on Wilfork?

What Dolt Boy doesn't want to admit is if it Manning vs Brady, the booth monkeys at ESPN and NFLN would be creaming over themselves to explain how smart Manning was for knowing the rules and officials.
I've been reading his nonsense. Let him drift off into irrelevent-land as you would treat your 4 year old who is having a tantrum and don't even acknowledge the behavior (speaking from experience). You can fight, scream and debate and he'll never get it b/c he doesn't want to. Hes been drugged just like Irsay was when he had a little bit of a tussle with painkillers and coke.

His insinuations aren't even worth offering a rebuttal too.

Let him argue with the other uneducated fans who yap all day on how much they long for the days of Tarrick Glenn on the IndyStar boards....
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Well, since we're making ridiculous comments how about just giving the QB's flags?

What's your point?
My point is that your argument makes no sense. Arguing against a rule to protect quarterbacks by listing all the great quarterbacks that have had their careers shortened by injuries is not a point in your favor.

And if your only issue is that you don't like the rule, why come here to argue it? Polian is the one that put it in place, not Brady.
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I didn't see the game so the only play I can comment on is that Suggs play and that wasn't a dirty play.

If Suggs was actually trying to hit brady he did a piss poor job of it. From what I've heard Brady said it wasn't a dirty play, he just knew he could get a penalty called. Someone told me that so I don't know if he actually said it, but it didn't look dirty to me at all. He barely even touched Brady.

Go ahead and say it's my "hatred of the Patriots" (like I don't hate the Ravens) that makes me say that but it's true.

That was a joke of a penalty. Sooner or later the Brady Rule is going to be called in a game that will cost a team a PO game or a PO win and it's going to blow up in the leagues face.

The way it is now is ridiculous. QB's should get hit too.
Last time I checked, colts fans should not be whining about rule changes.
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