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Old 10-07-2009, 09:50 AM   #11
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If we stick with the run and continue to pound the rock to take some of the heat off Brady, we should easily win this game.
That's a big if! Since the coaching staff seems to be anti run.
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That's a big if! Since the coaching staff seems to be anti run.
The weather forecast for Denver at game time is rain/snow (or maybe snow/rain - in any event, it will be on the cold side), so I think we'll see a fair amount of running from both teams.

As for Denver fans' talk of a blow out, that's wishful thinking. They don't really have to horses for blowing out a quality team, even at home.

With all due respect to Brandon Marshall (on offense) and Champ Bailey (on defense), they need more.

Josh has them playing well, but this is the NFL, and it's still very early. Let's see how things look, say, about 5 weeks from now. We'll have a better picture then....
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The Broncos' defense is overrated. You don't go from worst to first in one year just because of a scheme change. It doesn't happen.

They've played some good games, but that D is not going to continue at this pace all year. If they do, I'll be extremely surprised.

Broncos fans are truly stupid if they think they're going to blow us out. Our D matches up well with their offense. All they have is Marshall and Knowshon. Just double Marshall. Royal has not shown the ability to get open on a regular basis this year. Orton takes good care of the ball but that's about it. I'd compare him to Matt Cassel.

It should be another close game. If the Broncos defense proves to be as overrated as I think it is, it won't be.

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The Broncos' defense is overrated. You don't go from worst to first in one year just because of a scheme change. It doesn't happen.

They've played some good games, but that D is not going to continue at this pace all year. If they do, I'll be extremely surprised.

Broncos fans are truly stupid if they think they're going to blow us out. Our D matches up well with their offense. All they have is Marshall and Knowshon. Just double Marshall. Royal has not shown the ability to get open on a regular basis this year. Orton takes good care of the ball but that's about it. I'd compare him to Matt Cassel.

It should be another close game. If the Broncos defense proves to be as overrated as I think it is, it won't be.
no D has ever continued at a pace of 6.5ppg. ever. so no, they wont continue at this pace. they have 7 new starters on defense and only the good players from last year remain, THAT is why they are better. this isnt the same defense as last year, this defense is playing great team football.

no one thinks the broncos will blow the pats out. go to the orangemane where more intelligent fans are, most are predicting a close game either way.
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You should go over to the Broncos forum. A lot of them are predicting a 31-7 win over the Pats.
I don't know what forum you were on but I live on those message boards and while most are predicting a Bronco win (as well we should that is our team) only a few have predicted a blow out. I didn't see one 31-7 score anywhere. In fact most are predicting a very close game. Some are even picking the pats to win. So NO a lot of us are not predicting a 31-7 Bronco win, but I hope they do.
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I don't know what forum you were on but I live on those message boards and while most are predicting a Bronco win (as well we should that is our team) only a few have predicted a blow out. I didn't see one 31-7 score anywhere. In fact most are predicting a very close game. Some are even picking the pats to win. So NO a lot of us are not predicting a 31-7 Bronco win, but I hope they do.
I saw it in a couple of posts over there. It's really no different then people over here predicting a big blowout against a quality opponent. I just thought it was funny is all. Your guys' defense is pretty good, but I highly doubt it's going to hold the Pats to just 7 points.
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The Patriots have a relativity index of 7.76

The Broncos have a relativity index of 7.48


My metrics have the Patriots and Broncos each scoring around 15 points.
This is great stuff Ice Ice Brady, I look forward to it each week now, as its a much better way of looking at statistics than the usual.

That said, I do look for the Pats to break out this week and score more this week - though I have been impressed w Denver, and their defense looked pretty legit against Dallas from what I saw on NFLN in rewatch last nite. But the Pats O is damn near clicking, and as 2007 showed, there is only a defense or two out there that can stop this O when its clicking, and I'm not sure Denver is one.

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For those of you who requested, I will be posting the league relativity index later this week, which ranks each team's offense, defense, and overall expectancy based on past results.

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Please continue to post such analysis. Very interesting. If the Pats do come away with a solid W as I expect, it will be more interesting to see what the #s are.

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The Broncos' defense is overrated. You don't go from worst to first in one year just because of a scheme change. It doesn't happen.

They've played some good games, but that D is not going to continue at this pace all year. If they do, I'll be extremely surprised.

Broncos fans are truly stupid if they think they're going to blow us out. Our D matches up well with their offense. All they have is Marshall and Knowshon. Just double Marshall. Royal has not shown the ability to get open on a regular basis this year. Orton takes good care of the ball but that's about it. I'd compare him to Matt Cassel.

It should be another close game. If the Broncos defense proves to be as overrated as I think it is, it won't be.
Hey guys, Broncos fan here to talk a little football.

While the Broncos defense will certainly not end the year with a 6.5 ppg allowed, I can't seem to justify you calling them over rated. Regardless of who we have played so far, although two of the teams have put up good offensive numbers in their other games, holding an opponent to under a touchdown is incredible.

Our defense is completely new from last years. We have very few returning players from last years squad. Dumerville, Williams, Peterson, and Champ all started; that's it. Nolan has come in here and established a new attitude that Dawkins has reinforced. We haven't seen our D playing with this much intensity and ferocity since 2005. So you can say they may slip a little, but they certainly are not over rated.

Our offense has struggled to score, but I think that will change. It may not happen this game, but it will. Royal has been seeing most of the double teams and he is playing our #2 WR position. McD is not focusing on that position either. Had Royal been put into the slot I think he would be excelling, frankly, that's one of my few complaints against McD.

To say we only have Marshall and Knowshon is an understatement as well. To go along with those two players we have one of the best offensive lines in the NFL. Our LT hasn't given up a full sack in 19, a record, and he doesn't seem to be relenting. Also Stokely and Gaffney have been tearing it up in the slot for us this year. If our offense clicks I think we win the game.

I don't really know any fans that think we'll blow you guys out either, I'm actually predicting a loss by 10-13 pts. I just think we'll see a little step back this week, but hopefully pick it up next week against the Chargers.

Seems like you guys have some reasonable thinkers on here so good luck! I may come back a couple times as well.

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