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Synovia · 10-06-2009, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by PATRIOTSFANINPA

Well to defend that play, NE did have a miracle mistake by the Ravens coaching staff against the Ravens in 2007 to keep their streak alive and go 16-0 so sometimes those miracle plays or calls seems to go your way on the way to bigger things.

I don't remember a miracle mistake.

I do remember a Time Out called about a second before the ball was snapped, and a bunch of O-Lineman just standing up and a pass rusher getting through. I have a hard time believing that the O-Lineman just let the pass-rushers bye, and it wasn't related to the TO.

***PATRIOTSFANINPA*** · 10-06-2009, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jmt57

Not taking anything away from the Vikings offensive line - which is excellent, probably the best in the NFL - but there were many times that it seemed like the Packers just gave up and didn't even attempt to get any pressure on Favre. It was as if their DC thought 'there's no way we can do anything against Minnesota's line, so let's just rush two or three, drop everyone else back, and hope for the best'. With that much time Jamarcus Russell would look good.

Green Bay's defensive strategy to avoid the pass rush pressure seems to be what Atlanta did against the Pats 2 weeks ago

If you are afraid to pass rush and leave the secondary on an island then you have little faith in the back 4 and that spells doom a lot of the time.

BionicPatriot · 10-06-2009, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jmt57

Not taking anything away from the Vikings offensive line - which is excellent, probably the best in the NFL - but there were many times that it seemed like the Packers just gave up and didn't even attempt to get any pressure on Favre. It was as if their DC thought 'there's no way we can do anything against Minnesota's line, so let's just rush two or three, drop everyone else back, and hope for the best'. With that much time Jamarcus Russell would look good.

Than their DC has the genius idea of dropping perhaps their best pass rusher into coverage. Uh....?

***PATRIOTSFANINPA*** · 10-06-2009, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Synovia

I don't remember a miracle mistake.

I do remember a Time Out called about a second before the ball was snapped, and a bunch of O-Lineman just standing up and a pass rusher getting through. I have a hard time believing that the O-Lineman just let the pass-rushers bye, and it wasn't related to the TO.

IIRC the Patriots were going for it on 4th down to continue the drive late in the 4th which was the winning drive and the play had gone off without success until it was found out that a member of the Ravens staff which I believe was Rex Ryan called a timeout just before the snap...the timeout was given,Brady had a second chance and as history shows that drive ended up in a score and an unbelievable win for the Pats.

sebman2112 · 10-06-2009, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by PATRIOTSFANINPA

IIRC the Patriots were going for it on 4th down to continue the drive late in the 4th which was the winning drive and the play had gone off without success until it was found out that a member of the Ravens staff which I believe was Rex Ryan called a timeout just before the snap...the timeout was given,Brady had a second chance and as history shows that drive ended up in a score and an unbelievable win for the Pats.

I've seen that play in slow motion a number of times, and at least two of their O-linemen were standing straight up, and not fully engaging when the ball snapped. That's not how you run block, especially in that situation. So, I believe Synovia has a point, and those O-linemen likely noticed the timeout before the ball was snapped.

***ctpatsfan77*** · 10-06-2009, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BionicPatriot

Than their DC has the genius idea of dropping perhaps their best pass rusher into coverage. Uh....?

Ladies, gentlemen, and trolls, I give you Dom Capers.

PatsDparty · 10-06-2009, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by robertweathers

I question if Farve can last the season or be "the Man" for them in the playoffs. Plus I'm not sold on their WRs. Not ready to write Minny into the Sb just yet.

Not sold on Childress as a coach either.

Their D is excellent though...

Regarding the comment on their D. The D was fired up and very aggressive last night, similar to how many posters here wish the Pats would play. However, with that aggressiveness comes a lot of gambling, as well as GB still putting up 20 points.

sebman2112 · 10-06-2009, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BionicPatriot

Than their DC has the genius idea of dropping perhaps their best pass rusher into coverage. Uh....?

While I do think the Packers should have utilized Kampman's pass rushing ability more, they are also trying to develop his overall game as a 34 OLB, and we all need to remember how frequently BB has dropped his best OLB's into coverage. Capers is likely trying to develop more flexibility, which in the end could make their defense tougher.

***mgteich*** · 10-06-2009, 05:42 PM

Brady could have the same time as Favre if we chose to have only two receivers out in patterns. One side would be MAX-PROTECT with a TE and RB protecting Brady and the other would have a TE or FB.

We CHOOSE to send more than two receivers out in patterns.

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Originally Posted by PATRIOTSFANINPA

The amount of time in the pocket like Brett Favre had last night

According to reports from Sirius NFL Radio today, 7.8 seconds was the average time that Brett had per passing play to find receivers.

I don't know about you but if you gave Tom Brady 7.8 seconds to pass the ball for 60 minutes NE would probably score 80 points and Brady would have 700 or more yards passing.

Thats just ridiculous to give a QB so long all game,Farve was fantastic but its scary to think what Brady or Manning could do.

We need our OL to play like the Vikings OL played last night,that would be awesome!!

***ausbacker*** · 10-06-2009, 06:34 PM

I couldn't help but laugh at some of the cushion's the Green Bay defensive backs were giving the Vikings wide outs. It struck me as a particularly familiar sight. Then you realise.. oh that's right Dom Capers is at Green Bay now.

It was fun watching Allen play, however I still think the Giants are better than the Vikings.