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Old 09-23-2009, 08:58 AM   #11
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This isn't right. We made Givens a huge offer, but the Titans offered more. If the archives are available, go check. Givens took the larger offer because he'd been playing for 7th round money and wanted a payday. But we offered decent, competitive money, over $20 mil IIRC.
the pats only offerd him like 16 million over 5 years

the texans offerd him 17.5 million over 5 years

the titans offerd him 24 million over 5 years

he made the right move he got hurt that year and may never play football again so he needs all the money he can get

and it worked out good for the pats to if they resign givens

maybe he dose not get hurt

but they dont trade for welker and moss
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Um.....I'm think Givens is a good guy and all, but OF COURSE IT'S ABOUT THEY MONEY!

He leaves NE for a big payday - and good for him - but it was about the money!

He's suing the Titans for negligence - and good for him - but it's about the money!

I do have my question about the lawsuit though....why would the Titans pay him all that money if they knew his knee was shot?

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I miss Givens. Hope he gets a good settlement
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Um.....I'm think Givens is a good guy and all, but OF COURSE IT'S ABOUT THEY MONEY!

He leaves NE for a big payday - and good for him - but it was about the money!

He's suing the Titans for negligence - and good for him - but it's about the money!

I do have my question about the lawsuit though....why would the Titans pay him all that money if they knew his knee was shot?
That's the only thing that doesn't add up for me. It doesn't make sense for the Titans, having just signed this guy as a FA to a lucrative contract, to then go out and have him play on an injury that they knew would end his career. He's an investment to the team, and teams protect their investments. If he was an UDFA, or near the end of his contract, I wouldn't be surprised at all, but strictly from an investment standpoint, this account makes no sense from the Titans' end.

That said, I'm with spacecrime: if they Titans did actually withhold this info from Givens, then that's despicable, and they're responsible for not giving him the opportunity to get this problem fixed before it ended his career (although I'm always surprised if/when athletes don't see their own doctors for outside opinions on a regular basis).
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This isn't right. We made Givens a huge offer, but the Titans offered more. If the archives are available, go check. Givens took the larger offer because he'd been playing for 7th round money and wanted a payday. But we offered decent, competitive money, over $20 mil IIRC.
No, we didn't. In fact the Texans offered him a million more than we did and he was crashingly disappointed. We didn't even make him an offer until FA opened, and ours was loaded with unmakeable incentives...even if his knee didn't blow.

Wrong wrote a lengthy piece on the negotiations.

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If the Patriots had given me an offer I couldn't refuse I would have stayed. That wasn't the case but it was still difficult to leave. It's a great organization. They helped me win two Super Bowls and gave me an opportunity to show my ability.

''I kept the Patriots in my mind but Tennessee seemed like it had a good organization. I'm not saying the Patriots are dishonest, but I felt the Titans were very honest right from the minute I got there. I just felt more comfortable there. I play a lot better when I feel comfortable. I know they'll expect a lot of me but I accept that role. I want to be one of their major guys. I want that pressure."

At $4.8 million a year now, he's got it.
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As the Texans' sales pitch grew, it became ever more disingenuous. They talked of the millions he could make in local endorsements... Still Givens was wavering. He was tired, eager to come home (to Houston) and now aware the Patriots had made a $17.5 million offer at 6:12 p.m. Sunday night that was $1 million below Houston's and nowhere near the Titans' proposal... By 9:10 a.m. Monday, Givens was in his third city in three days and his head was spinning. As he arrived Blank told him he had pushed the Titans up to $23.8 million. Givens learned the offer he received had bettered all of the above, including Randle El's seven-year, $31 million deal.

Soon after, Givens met with coach Jeff Fisher, position coach Ray Sherman, and offensive coordinator Norm Chow, as well as Reese, and all was going well, but he was growing ever more tired, stressed, and anxious. Decision time was near.

''It sounds like fun but you're up at 5 a.m. every morning, flying around, meeting people you don't know all day, being interviewed. You're with those guys all day. You're pretty stressed. I lost 6 or 7 pounds because I couldn't eat and I wasn't sleeping much. I took three full body physicals in 72 hours. MRIs, X-rays, everything. They all drew blood, and needles are my worst enemy. It was wild."



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That's the only thing that doesn't add up for me. It doesn't make sense for the Titans, having just signed this guy as a FA to a lucrative contract, to then go out and have him play on an injury that they knew would end his career. He's an investment to the team, and teams protect their investments. If he was an UDFA, or near the end of his contract, I wouldn't be surprised at all, but strictly from an investment standpoint, this account makes no sense from the Titans' end.

That said, I'm with spacecrime: if they Titans did actually withhold this info from Givens, then that's despicable, and they're responsible for not giving him the opportunity to get this problem fixed before it ended his career (although I'm always surprised if/when athletes don't see their own doctors for outside opinions on a regular basis).
I guess someone should ask Floyd what happened, then.
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