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Old 09-22-2009, 01:28 PM   #1
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for those who kept saying we didnt call a single screen...take it FWIW
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Old 09-22-2009, 01:34 PM   #2
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More great insight from BB and again it shows why us fans complaining on this board really don't have a clue a lot of the time.

What does bother me though, is if he knew ahead of time that they would be bringing the heat in M2M blitzes and that screens wouldn't work.....then what was in place as a counter? You always have to give something up on defense....you can't cover everything 100%

So....what is the counter?
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More great insight from BB and again it shows why us fans complaining on this board really don't have a clue a lot of the time.

What does bother me though, is if he knew ahead of time that they would be bringing the heat in M2M blitzes and that screens wouldn't work.....then what was in place as a counter? You always have to give something up on defense....you can't cover everything 100%

So....what is the counter?
iam sure he forgot to discuss what his game plan was with the media...
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iam sure he forgot to discuss what his game plan was with the media...
Why would you clutter up your own thread with a BS response like yours above.

I am sure that it is pretty well know among the coaching community that M2M blitzes make it hard to hit screens......I am also sure there is a well know few counters to that. I don't think this is magical fairy dust knowledge. Give me a break.

What I am asking for is what is the counter. We have some very knowledgable football background posters on this board. Maybe they can answer.
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Why would you clutter up your own thread with a BS response like yours above.

I am sure that it is pretty well know among the coaching community that M2M blitzes make it hard to hit screens......I am also sure there is a well know few counters to that. I don't think this is magical fairy dust knowledge. Give me a break.

What I am asking for is what is the counter. We have some very knowledgable football background posters on this board. Maybe they can answer.
Relax ...iam not cluttering a thread or care about it...this question was asked by the media to him so i figured you wanted to know the same...but when you start something like
"What does bother me though," you are saying the same thing like the rest of us were "Where were the screens.....then what was in place as a counter? " ...
obviously whatever they countered with didnt work thats why it bother's us.
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Why would you clutter up your own thread with a BS response like yours above.

I am sure that it is pretty well know among the coaching community that M2M blitzes make it hard to hit screens......I am also sure there is a well know few counters to that. I don't think this is magical fairy dust knowledge. Give me a break.

What I am asking for is what is the counter. We have some very knowledgable football background posters on this board. Maybe they can answer.
There are probably several counters, but I doubt he's going to reveal which one he had in mind to the whole world.
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the problem stems from sports writers and fans thinking they know something about a sport because their team is good

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As futile as the regular offense was performing doing what they were doing I don't think it would have been any worse for the Pats to try their hand at a few more screens. Maybe they connect on one or two.
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There are probably several counters, but I doubt he's going to reveal which one he had in mind to the whole world.
Exactly. It isn't magic. You have 2 seconds to get a pass off so the receivers have to expose the coverage in those 2 seconds. Just about any route could work depending on who is in coverage. They keys are getting open in those 2 seconds and burning the defense with YAC. That is why missing Welker for this game was disproportionately painful. Edelman did a fine job but Welker would have been a consistent move-the-chains guy against that pressure.

On the plus side, there couldn't have been a more perfect game for Edelman and Galloway to get experience. The results were mixed but gotta look for the silver lining.
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Exactly. It isn't magic. You have 2 seconds to get a pass off so the receivers have to expose the coverage in those 2 seconds. Just about any route could work depending on who is in coverage. They keys are getting open in those 2 seconds and burning the defense with YAC. That is why missing Welker for this game was disproportionately painful. Edelman did a fine job but Welker would have been a consistent move-the-chains guy against that pressure.

On the plus side, there couldn't have been a more perfect game for Edelman and Galloway to get experience. The results were mixed but gotta look for the silver lining.
As I've said before, the problem on Sunday (and last Monday) was that Brady is not yet mentally comfortable playing football. The counters to those blitzes were certainly employed in the game, but Brady is not currently stepping into throws or hanging in the pocket under pressure. When he does throw the ball, it doesn't go where he wants it to because he's unconsciously/involuntarily protecting that knee and not using the proper mechanic. It will take time before he gets that mental comfort back and hits the throws properly. How long, nobody knows. However, I would suggest that by the second Jets game, he'll have made sufficient improvement that you'll see a very different offensive performance.
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