Seymour introduced but Al Davis steals the show - Page 4 - New England Patriots Forums

***MoLewisrocks*** · 09-13-2009, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by upstater1

If I were an NFL owner at the bottom half of the league and I was offered the chance to trade all my players for one season for all the Raiders players, I would.

I guess I'm saying they have a lot of good talent on the Raiders. Too bad their coaching/GM situation is all screwed up.

I could see our #1 choice being worth less than we hoped IF the Raiders get their act together. If I had the players on that team, I would begin by cutting bait with Jamarcus Russell. But you still have McFadden, decent WRs, and a defense with good players at key positions.

All I'm saying is that it wouldn't surprise me if we're picking at #16 in 2011.

Saying if the Raiders get their act together is like saying when

They told Richard they could not give him a new deal because of the cap. There is a reason for that. Part of which is Jamarcus Russell whose deal included no signing bonus but tons of guaranteed money. Whose gonna play QB for you once you cut him and he slams your cap and walks away with $40M in Al's cash...

***mgteich*** · 09-13-2009, 11:38 AM

Please post where KC has picked in the last few years.

KC is being run like an organization should be? Why? Because their GM is Parcell's son-in-law or because they have signed so many patriot players.

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Originally Posted by Patsfanin Philly

#7,2,1,4,7,7...That's where they've picked the last few years. One other problem for Oakland is that KC is being run like an organization should be, Denver is improving and SD is still tough.
Couple that with Jamarcus Russell having a cap number too high to cut and he's their QB for this year and maybe next. If they have kept Garcia as a starter, maybe I'd agree with you.
Come 2010, there is likely to be a new coach and I don't see them going 8-8 or so to get the #16.....I'm betting top ten........

***TrueBeliever*** · 09-13-2009, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by PatsFanSince74

i didn't know that davis thought about getting bb in in 1999. luckiest day of belichick's life when he wasn't offered that job!!!

I have to wonder if he'd have even taken it - if he wanted out of the NYJ because of the precarious ownership situation, he must have known Oakland would be worse, even back then. Just my opinion.

patsfan-1982 · 09-13-2009, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Marqui

Chances of Sey signing an extention with them?

good he's got 3 rings all redy all he needs now is lot's of money and more stats

jmt57 · 09-13-2009, 10:52 PM

Ironically a few years ago Oakland was set up perfectly to reload and continue being a contender. After losing to the Pats in the 2001 playoffs, they were still good enough to go to the Super Bowl in 2002. That's when Gruden was signed by Tampa Bay to be their coach the next year, and they got two 1st round picks, two 2nd round picks, and $8 million to help pay for those players. Instead of reloading, the Raiders have done no better than 5-11 since '02, with a cumulative 24-72 since then.

***nashvillepatsfan*** · 09-14-2009, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jmt57

Ironically a few years ago Oakland was set up perfectly to reload and continue being a contender. After losing to the Pats in the 2001 playoffs, they were still good enough to go to the Super Bowl in 2002. That's when Gruden was signed by Tampa Bay to be their coach the next year, and they got two 1st round picks, two 2nd round picks, and $8 million to help pay for those players. Instead of reloading, the Raiders have done no better than 5-11 since '02, with a cumulative 24-72 since then.

Kinda reminds me of when the Tuna left town. Too bad we didnt have BB, and Pioli making the picks back then.......damn Bobby Grier

***robertweathers*** · 09-14-2009, 06:58 AM

Borges was in rare form on Felger's "Sports Sunday" show last night. I'm paraphrasing, but he bashed Belichick for calling Sey on the phone and informing him that he was traded as opposed to driving to his house and delivering the news personally. He said, "what, he can't drive two towns over for a guy who helped him immeasureably over the years........?"

Classic.

***TrueBeliever*** · 09-14-2009, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by jmt57

Instead of reloading, the Raiders have done no better than 5-11 since '02, with a cumulative 24-72 since then.

What really blew me away was when I heard that the Raiders have the worst overall record since '02... that's saying something, considering the Lions went 0-16 last year!

***PatsFanSince74*** · 09-14-2009, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by TrueBeliever

What really blew me away was when I heard that the Raiders have the worst overall record since '02... that's saying something, considering the Lions went 0-16 last year!

That's what happens when you have a "Commitment to Excellence." you don't do anything half way!

furley · 09-15-2009, 04:36 PM

Then did I hear wrong on the radio? I'd heard that the Patriots offered the choice of either of Seymour or Wilfork to the Raiders, and Oakland chose Seymour. Because my thought was: What if they'd chosen Wilfork, could Brace step right in and start at NT?