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So what happens if Seymour refuses to report? It depends on the terms of the trade, which usually are contingent on the player reporting and passing a physical.
According to an NFL spokesman, the team could send him a five-day notice letter saying it may place him on the reserved/left squad list. If the Raiders choose to put Seymour player on that list, he cannot play in the 2009 season.
Nothing's there that I haven't noted. Now, if you have information saying the Raiders waived the requirement of a physical, please supply it. Otherwise, it might be best for you to harken back:
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Re: PFT: If Seymour doesn't report, Raiders will want their pick back
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The comments from coach Tom Cable are really irrelevant since the trade papers have been signed and approved by the league office. He counts on the Raiders’ 53-man roster, so how does Seymour need to clear things up with the Patriots? All that remains is for Seymour to show up and pass his physical. There’s nothing left for the Patriots to do regarding Seymour because he’s now the property of the Raiders, so many NFL observers were left shaking their heads after hearing Cable’s comments.
Seymour has no choice other than to retire, which he doesn’t want to do as he was expecting a Julius Peppers type of contract next offseason in what may be an uncapped year. The Raiders can place him on their reserve did not report list and go after the remaining portion of his pro-rated bonus. But clearly, that’s not a course of action a team that gave up a first-round pick in 2011 wants to explore. Can the Raiders now trade him? Yes, but do you think they can recoup their investment? Hardly. But again, the Raiders made this trade to improve their team, not collect draft picks, so trading Seymour isn’t an option for them.
He is a Raider.
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Re: PFT: If Seymour doesn't report, Raiders will want their pick back
Just reposting that I think Seymour has to FAIL a physical to nullify the trade. Simply not reporting is not enough.
No one responded to the earlier one and it has been buried a bit.
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Re: PFT: If Seymour doesn't report, Raiders will want their pick back
The Raiders will want their pick back if they don't get Seymour to play?!? Really?!? That seems pretty shocking.
The question is whether they can get that pick back. Both Michael Lombardi and Adam Schefter have intimated that the deal is done and there is no going back. If true, that means the Raiders' only recourse is to file a grievance with the league. The only way I can see them siding with the Raiders in that case is if Goodell felt that the Pats dealt in bad faith and knew Seymour would never report to the Raiders.
Re: PFT: If Seymour doesn't report, Raiders will want their pick back
This is what Schefter said
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Schefter says the league bylaws state once a trade is made and processed by the league it can not be void by one of the teams unless it is for a failed physical, not for not showing up for a physical. He says that the league expects it to work out between Seymour and Oakland.
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Deus Irae: Nothing's there that I haven't noted. Now, if you have information saying the Raiders waived the requirement of a physical, please supply it. Otherwise, it might be best for you to harken back:
Nothing's there that I haven't noted. Now, if you have information saying the Raiders waived the requirement of a physical, please supply it. Otherwise, it might be best for you to harken back:
But not reporting does not constitute a failed physical. So yeah he can go out and hurt himself show up and fail a physical. Other than that its a done deal. If he doesn't show up he is Oakland's problem. End of story.
The league can't afford to set that precedent. Think about it, if Seymour doesn't show up and the Raiders ask and receive a void of the trade from the league. Then they just allowed players to void trades without having a no trade clause in their contract. That would be idiotic as it would undermine the entire trade process.
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Re: PFT: If Seymour doesn't report, Raiders will want their pick back
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This is what Schefter said
It seems that I am correct.
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Re: PFT: If Seymour doesn't report, Raiders will want their pick back
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But not reporting does not constitute a failed physical. So yeah he can go out and hurt himself show up and fail a physical. Other than that its a done deal. If he doesn't show up he is Oakland's problem. End of story.
The league can't afford to set that precedent. Think about it, if Seymour doesn't show up and the Raiders ask and receive a void of the trade from the league. Then they just allowed players to void trades without having a no trade clause in their contract. That would be idiotic as it would undermined the entire trade process.
It's not about precedent, it's about what the rules are. That's why I asked our moderator if he had other information, but he didn't offer any.
Clearly, there is confusion on this point. I'm trying to contact the league for clarification, but they've not been able to connect me to someone who can give me a definitive answer yet. I'm on hold and will post follow up info.
Follow up: I had to leave a message. If the person returns my call, I'll gladly post whatever information I get on the subject.
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Re: PFT: If Seymour doesn't report, Raiders will want their pick back
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