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I haven't done the math (and don't intend to) but the Patriots are apparently still the 3rd oldest '53' in the NFL.
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They have the Pats at number 2. Steelers should be #1 until they lose. Gotta love Clayton's comments though:
The Pats lose the three oldest players on defense at least as far as starters and they are still aging? Shouldn't they be younger without Vrabel, Harrison, and Bruschi?
Other than rating the colts and dolphins too high, this seems to be a very reasonable assessment of the status quo.
If anything, the patriots and chargers will tend to be overrated because their divisions are so putrid.
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They have the Pats at number 2. Steelers should be #1 until they lose. Gotta love Clayton's comments though:
The Pats lose the three oldest players on defense at least as far as starters and they are still aging? Shouldn't they be younger without Vrabel, Harrison, and Bruschi?
I know the Steelers are the SB champs. But they won it all in probably the weakest year of the league in the decade? Anyone agree?
Pats were not the pats.
Colts were not the Colts.
The Titans were the #1 seed.
The Cardinals represented the NFC.
i strongly disagree. a ring is a ring.
16 regular season games. three or four post season games against charged opponents. as bb likes to say, it's a big mountain to climb and only one team gets all the way to the top every year. i remember that there were those who tried to diss XXXVI by saying we were lucky or the Rams had a bad day or whatever. bull**** to that and the same for dissing the Steelers this year. as i recall, Arizona put up a pretty good game that day and it took a circus catch to beat them (sound familiar?).
the only lombardi i've ever even been tempted to discount was the one won by the Skins in the strike-shortened year, but even then every other team had the same chance to take the hardware home.
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It is what it is. It wasn't what it wasn't.
Clayton says the Patriots have an aging defense? I plugged in their depth chart based on the Patriots.com depth chart. Using the 3-4 defense (using the 4-3, their age is even lower). The average age of the Patriots defense is 27.7 years on average. THAT is with Springs as a starter. The D is under 27 average if Willhite ends up being the starter.
If you then figure that rookies Brace, Pryor, Butler, and Chung should get some significant playing time, the defense is anything but old. I thought Clayton did this for a living. Doesn't he know that Vrabel, Brushchi, and Harrison aren't on the defense anymore? Can't he do the same math I just did?
I think you guys have shed the "aging defense" notion. I think you're down to 2-3 players in the low 30s which, is rather standard. When I saw this, I checked the Colts & we have 3 as well on defense.
I think the offense is really the older group now. Galloway & Fred Taylor don't help, but Brady, Moss, and the O-line are getting up there. Don't mean that they're old-old, but the FO's gonna have to start looking at replacements within the next 2-4 years.
It's customary to have the SB champ #1. No problem there.
However, the Cryptkeeper and "aging defense" just shows how much "analysis" we can expect.
Don't waste time on those clowns.
Not trying to say the Steelers don't deserve it, or that we deserve it more than them, but, that is just dumb logic. If the Steelers win the superbowl, then lose half their team, are we still obligated to consider them the best team the next season? No. Now I'm not saying that's what happened, it clearly isn't, but every year is a new year.
However, these PRESEASON power rankings are apparently doing exactly what they're meant to: make people talk, criticize, and praise them.
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Chris Price has the Steelers first, followed by the Pats, Colts, Giants and Chargers. The Eagles, Titans, Falcons, Cardinals and Ravens round out his top ten. In the AFC East he has the Jets #18, Dolphins #20, and Bills #22.