Originally Posted by silenthuntr7

I do believe the tag takes the top 5 salaries at the position and averages them, regardless of cap hit...which would make Sey's position a huge issue, as the top 5 salaries for DT are on average about 5 million less than the same for DE.

Originally Posted by patchick

Thanks, Mo. What surprises me is the idea that most trades are contingent on the player reporting. Isn't that functionally equivalent to giving every player veto power over trades?

Originally Posted by MassPats38

Of all the ability-centric issues raised over this trade, the leadership question concerns me the most with the current defense given the recent evolution of personnel. The leadership aspect evident in that group is not something taught, and the coach cannot call that quality in from the sidelines.

I won't go "gloom and doom" on this specific trade as I see the present trade value and prospects of resigning Seymour as well as Belichick's ability to coach defense, but it will be interesting to see how this new group works together on the field.

Originally Posted by ALP

u know, since our last SB win what this defense has had PLENTY of?

it was experience and leadership....and yet with the vast amounts of both, this defense still broke when it mattered most against indy and the giants?

maybe its time we focus more on skill and talent rather than leadership and experience....

Originally Posted by BradyFTW!

It's $6M for DTs and $9M for DEs, so it definitely is a pretty huge difference, but, as Synovia said, if you tag a player his salary has to be the average of the tops at his position *or* a 10% raise, whichever is greater, so no matter what position Seymour was tagged at, he would get a 10% raise over his current salary.

Originally Posted by MoLewisrocks

But I believe they figure that out based on the average of the players amortization and salary. Seymour got an option bonus on his 3 year extension that was spread over 4 seasons (including 2006). So he may actually "count" as less than $8M (which was his average over 4 years) which would put him under the DE tag. But Crable predictably has already gone on record saying he will play mostly RDE in Oakland and only slide over in certain limited situations.

Originally Posted by ALP

u know, since our last SB win what this defense has had PLENTY of?

it was experience and leadership....and yet with the vast amounts of both, this defense still broke when it mattered most against indy and the giants?

maybe its time we focus more on skill and talent rather than leadership and experience....