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Old 09-04-2009, 10:43 AM   #21
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was brady there at all? Welker?
According to all the pre-game news, ALL the Pats players on the 75 man roster were present and dressed. In fact, it was pointed out that Welker and Brady were playing catch prior to the game.

However, NONE of the starters played in the game. BB threw the 2nd team to the wolves to see how they would react. And, for the 1st quarter + they were shell-shocked....

That being said:
1) Brian Hoyer - After 2 really bad series, he started clicking.. In fact, he ended up doing extremely well against the Giants 1st and 2nd teams.

2) The O-line: After 2 really bad series, they finally got their act together for pass protection, at least. Their run blocking against the Giant's top line left a lot to be desired. But they clearly over-matched the Giants 2nd and 3rd stringers.

3) BJGE: Had 18 carries for 48 yards against the Giants top defense. Once the Top defense was starting to filter out, then he lit it up with 11 runs for 81 yards, including a 32 yard scamper.

4) Jamar Love and Roderick Rogers were torched time and again last night.

5) Chung: If this doesn't humble the kid, nothing will.. Play with tenacity and prowess. Show some emotion when you make a great play. Every other time, though, get back to the huddle and get ready for the next play. That is how you should conduct yourself. The way Bruschi did.
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Old 09-04-2009, 11:04 AM   #22
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According to all the pre-game news, ALL the Pats players on the 75 man roster were present and dressed. In fact, it was pointed out that Welker and Brady were playing catch prior to the game.

However, NONE of the starters played in the game. BB threw the 2nd team to the wolves to see how they would react. And, for the 1st quarter + they were shell-shocked....

That being said:
1) Brian Hoyer - After 2 really bad series, he started clicking.. In fact, he ended up doing extremely well against the Giants 1st and 2nd teams.

2) The O-line: After 2 really bad series, they finally got their act together for pass protection, at least. Their run blocking against the Giant's top line left a lot to be desired. But they clearly over-matched the Giants 2nd and 3rd stringers.

3) BJGE: Had 18 carries for 48 yards against the Giants top defense. Once the Top defense was starting to filter out, then he lit it up with 11 runs for 81 yards, including a 32 yard scamper.

4) Jamar Love and Roderick Rogers were torched time and again last night.

5) Chung: If this doesn't humble the kid, nothing will.. Play with tenacity and prowess. Show some emotion when you make a great play. Every other time, though, get back to the huddle and get ready for the next play. That is how you should conduct yourself. The way Bruschi did.
Good to see they were all there. Maybe Welker wont miss week 1 after all. BJGE should make the team.
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BB was just making Chung face his demons. It's the weakest part of his game and it's good to get game reps (that don't count) as a way to give you valuable experience (and tape) from which to improve on. BB would not be leaving Chung on an island covering the slot 1on1 in a game that mattered.

Part of the process, lets not create the "Chung sucks in coverage" chorus quite yet. We knew that. It was his listed weakness prior to the draft.


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was brady there at all? Welker?
There was a great shot of Brady emptying a package of sunflower seeds into a paper cup, then sitting on the bench and chewing and spitting. Looked like a baseball player..

All of the starters were dressed and many of them were taking an interest in the game too. On some of the sideline shots, you could see Moss, Brady, Light and some others talking to the younger players when they came off, giving them advice, etc. There was a LOT of peer-to-peer counseling going on, and that was great to see.
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Good to see they were all there. Maybe Welker wont miss week 1 after all. BJGE should make the team.
People said all last season that Gutierrez should make the team over Cassel. I wasn't one of those people. I weighted a lot of different things and I just didn't feel that Gutierrez has shown enough against the 2nd stringers to warrant being kept over Cassel.. and we all know how that ended up.

BJGE has been good, this pre-seson, against the 2nd and 3rd stringers. However, up until last night, he'd not faced top competition. He did so and didn't do well. I will add the caveat that he did have the Pats 2nd string O-line blocking in front of him while they were facing the Giants top defense. But 18 carries for 48 yards isn't something to be wowed over.

I look at BJGE and I see the likes of Marcus Mason, Ryan Torain, etc, etc. Guys who are good in pre-season, but just don't make the team for a variety of reasons. BJGE could make the team over Morris, but I think Morris brings more as a blocker than BJGE does. The question is whether or not Morris is going to be healthy at some point. The Patriots could also decide to release Morris with an injury settlement, keep BJGE, and then, when Morris is healthy, bring him back and release BJGE.. or just keep Morris on the shadow roster, assuming he doesn't get signed by someone else, like the Jets.

If BJGE makes the team, great. If he doesn't, I won't celebrate because he's a good kid and I wish him success.
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Vollmer displayed very good technique and game awareness.

On the one hold, it was a smart play. The QB was flushed from the pocket and rolled left. Where Vollmer had contained the rusher now created a direct lane to the QB. Rather than let his QB get killed and take a large loss, Vollmer held the defender and took the penalty.
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People said all last season that Gutierrez should make the team over Cassel. I wasn't one of those people. I weighted a lot of different things and I just didn't feel that Gutierrez has shown enough against the 2nd stringers to warrant being kept over Cassel.. and we all know how that ended up.

BJGE has been good, this pre-seson, against the 2nd and 3rd stringers. However, up until last night, he'd not faced top competition. He did so and didn't do well. I will add the caveat that he did have the Pats 2nd string O-line blocking in front of him while they were facing the Giants top defense. But 18 carries for 48 yards isn't something to be wowed over.

I look at BJGE and I see the likes of Marcus Mason, Ryan Torain, etc, etc. Guys who are good in pre-season, but just don't make the team for a variety of reasons. BJGE could make the team over Morris, but I think Morris brings more as a blocker than BJGE does. The question is whether or not Morris is going to be healthy at some point. The Patriots could also decide to release Morris with an injury settlement, keep BJGE, and then, when Morris is healthy, bring him back and release BJGE.. or just keep Morris on the shadow roster, assuming he doesn't get signed by someone else, like the Jets.

If BJGE makes the team, great. If he doesn't, I won't celebrate because he's a good kid and I wish him success.
He'll make somoenes team I'm guessing. Good for him though.
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People said all last season that Gutierrez should make the team over Cassel. I wasn't one of those people. I weighted a lot of different things and I just didn't feel that Gutierrez has shown enough against the 2nd stringers to warrant being kept over Cassel.. and we all know how that ended up.

BJGE has been good, this pre-seson, against the 2nd and 3rd stringers. However, up until last night, he'd not faced top competition. He did so and didn't do well. I will add the caveat that he did have the Pats 2nd string O-line blocking in front of him while they were facing the Giants top defense. But 18 carries for 48 yards isn't something to be wowed over.

I look at BJGE and I see the likes of Marcus Mason, Ryan Torain, etc, etc. Guys who are good in pre-season, but just don't make the team for a variety of reasons. BJGE could make the team over Morris, but I think Morris brings more as a blocker than BJGE does. The question is whether or not Morris is going to be healthy at some point. The Patriots could also decide to release Morris with an injury settlement, keep BJGE, and then, when Morris is healthy, bring him back and release BJGE.. or just keep Morris on the shadow roster, assuming he doesn't get signed by someone else, like the Jets.

If BJGE makes the team, great. If he doesn't, I won't celebrate because he's a good kid and I wish him success.
I could not agree more with this post.
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To anyone who noticed, how did NYGs Will Beatty, Adam Koets, Jonathan Goff, Clint Sintim, Michael Johnson & Terrell Thomas look?
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