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***tanked_as_usual*** · 08-30-2009, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike the Brit

Seriously, how comfortable do you feel with O'C at #2 after last night?

kinda the same way we all felt about cassel at this point last year

Obnoxio · 08-30-2009, 10:33 AM

Walter needs to start the last preseason game to see what he can do. KOC looks awful, I don't seeing him having an NFL career except holding clipboard if he is lucky. The Patriots should be looking at available backup QBs for sure. Maybe get Damon Huard from the 49ers.

***ctpatsfan77*** · 08-30-2009, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Obnoxio

Walter needs to start the last preseason game to see what he can do. KOC looks awful, I don't seeing him having an NFL career except holding clipboard if he is lucky. The Patriots should be looking at available backup QBs for sure. Maybe get Damon Huard from the 49ers.

Because, obviously, if he looks awful now, he'll never get it together.

SydneyMorgan · 08-30-2009, 12:23 PM

I completely agree, O'Connell was not looking great with what 2 interceptions. I think we should see how Walter does.

***Box_O_Rocks*** · 08-30-2009, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RayClay

That would make me feel insecure at this point.

Your insecurities are legion.

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Originally Posted by Mike the Brit

Seriously, how comfortable do you feel with O'C at #2 after last night?

Nothing I saw last night changes that assessment. I can see the argument for keeping Walter and working him in camp, but at the moment I'm looking at the roster and in terms of what he brings to the roster vs a core Special Teams player...

***Mike the Brit*** · 08-30-2009, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Box_O_Rocks

Your insecurities are legion.

Nothing I saw last night changes that assessment. I can see the argument for keeping Walter and working him in camp, but at the moment I'm looking at the roster and in terms of what he brings to the roster vs a core Special Teams player...

I didn't get to see any of the pre-season action last year so I wasn't on the Cassel ... whatever is the opposite of bandwagon then.

But the guy whom I saw taking over from Brady looked very different from O'Connell to me. Sure, he wasn't very accurate on the long throws initially and he took a while to develop his decision-making, timing and sense for the pass rush. But he didn't stare down his receivers, throw into double coverage or chuck simple ten-yard passes to open receivers into the dirt, all of which I saw from O'Connell last night.

***Box_O_Rocks*** · 08-30-2009, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike the Brit

I didn't get to see any of the pre-season action last year so I wasn't on the Cassel ... whatever is the opposite of bandwagon then.

But the guy whom I saw taking over from Brady looked very different from O'Connell to me. Sure, he wasn't very accurate on the long throws initially and he took a while to develop his decision-making, timing and sense for the pass rush. But he didn't stare down his receivers, throw into double coverage or chuck simple ten-yard passes to open receivers into the dirt, all of which I saw from O'Connell last night.

Yes, Cassel in his fourth Training Camp was ahead of where O'Connell in his second is now. Further, Cassel did practice at a higher level in college, that said, O'Connell brings more game experience from college.
-- O'Con is still learning to read defenses - look how long it took Cassel once he was starting.
-- there was no game plan last night designed around O'Connell's strengths and away from his weaknesses.
-- NE was still testing out ideas and combinations of players to evaluate them.
-- O'Con had no Faulk, no Welker, very little time in camp with Watson, his front line was changing on him, and he was playing against a team that was playing for pride - even in preseason.

When all is said an done, O'Con did okay. BB may decide to keep Walter, it's a close call, but without BB's expert knowledge, my own inclination would be to go for depth elsewhere.

unoriginal · 08-30-2009, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike the Brit

[Cassel] didn't stare down his receivers, throw into double coverage or chuck simple ten-yard passes to open receivers into the dirt, all of which I saw from O'Connell last night.

Oh, he did that a fair bit in the preseason, especially early in games. Except the missing open receivers part, obviously the mechanical part is still a work in progress.

jefmblrd · 08-30-2009, 03:41 PM

Maybe there is some truth to this since the Patriots have released O'Connell.

***Mike the Brit*** · 08-30-2009, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Box_O_Rocks

Yes, Cassel in his fourth Training Camp was ahead of where O'Connell in his second is now. Further, Cassel did practice at a higher level in college, that said, O'Connell brings more game experience from college.
-- O'Con is still learning to read defenses - look how long it took Cassel once he was starting.
-- there was no game plan last night designed around O'Connell's strengths and away from his weaknesses.
-- NE was still testing out ideas and combinations of players to evaluate them.
-- O'Con had no Faulk, no Welker, very little time in camp with Watson, his front line was changing on him, and he was playing against a team that was playing for pride - even in preseason.

When all is said an done, O'Con did okay. BB may decide to keep Walter, it's a close call, but without BB's expert knowledge, my own inclination would be to go for depth elsewhere.

Sorry, I'm still not convinced ...