BradyManny

Did anyone catch Collinsworth on D&C this morning? When asked about the Patriot offense, he literally wouldn't say one positive thing and instead focused on Carson Palmer and how he "never was the same" the year following the ACL injury.

What he failed to mention was Palmer threw for over 4000 yards and nearly 30 TDs that year, and that Brady had a 5 month headstart on the rehab process.

I understand its a very legitimate concern about how someone comes back from an injury of this magnitude, but I, for one, think the Palmer comparison is flawed - especially if we are going to ignore Palmer's statistical success in the year he returned.

Another interesting tidbit, unrelated to Brady, was that they played for Collinsworth a clip of Hasselbeck absolutely ripping Favre's work ethic [from a WEEI interview w/ Hasselbeck this offseason] (talking about how he'd ask them to move up QB meetings up to 10:30 so he could make a tee-time, and then show up late at 12 anyway). What's funny is Collinsworth turns around, goes right on ESPN 890 after hanging up w D&C and is talking about how Favre is going to fit in great for the Vikings, the teammates will love him, blah blah blah.

nashvillepatsfan

I know some people on here like Collingsworth, but ive never liked him. Ive always ranked him pretty low on the scale. Kind of like Jamie Dukes

Rob0729

I still don't get the perception that Palmer sucked ever since he came back. The stories in 2006 was how Palmer rebounded as if he never left and showed courage in the pocket. Joe Theismann famously commented how he was amazed about Palmer's mental toughness in returning from his injury as if he never left.

It is funny, three years later the story on Palmer has changed. He went from rebounding without much of a drop off with courage in the pocket to never being the same and timid in the pocket.

Rob0729

As for Collinsworth flip-flop, it is common with national commentators to change their opinions based on their audience. It is not uncommon for a commentator to go on one local radio station and say that he thought the hometown team will crush the opposition and then go on the opposition's local radio station and say he likes their team's chances.

KontradictioN

Collinsworth sucks in every way possible. They couldn't have picked a more boring successor to John Madden. Oh wait. Yeah they could have. I forgot about his old running mate on NFL Network, Bryant Gumbel.

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Rob0729

Gumbel's problem isn't that he was boring. He didn't understand football.

Sicilian

Eh, whatever, what did you expect from a national guy? What's a more interesting story to watch for people outside of NE: Brady being Brady and dominating the league again, or the idea that the Golden Boy might fall from grace?

Not to get too philosophical, but it's like all ancient myths: There's an equal number of stories about the tragic downfall of heroes as there are inspirational stories of triumph. It's human nature to want an interesting story, not an accurate or uplifting one.

KontradictioN

No, boring was his biggest problem. He grasped the general concept of football (something a five year old can do) and that was good enough for him considering Collinsworth did play in the NFL and could make up for it. But listening to Gumbel was like listening to paint dry... if you can actually do that.

Put him and Collinsworth together and I was snoozing faster than I could have if I had been watching HGTV.

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AzPatsFan

And a bigotted racist as well.

Rob0729

Sorry, I remember one NFL Network broadcast where Gumbel was asking questions of Collinsworth that most 5 year olds would know the answers to. Gumbel clearly didn't know the game enough to be calling the play by play. He couldn't even figure out where the down marker was on most downs. He was clueless.