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Old 08-04-2009, 12:34 PM   #1
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Patriots wonder about impact of ban on wedge formations by Shalise Manza Young for The Providence Journal

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It is a relatively simple question without, it seems, an equally simple answer: how will the ban on wedge formations impact special teams play?

The NFL voted during the March owners' meetings to ban the wedge, three or four hand-holding offensive or defensive linemen who formed a wall to help to clear a path for kick returners. The wedge made for violent collisions, as wedge busters – those players crazy enough to launch themselves into a mass of exceedingly large men moving at top speed – can tell tales of being knocked out too many times to remember.

The thinking was, eliminating the wedge might help cut down on serious injuries.
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Further in the article, Scott O'Brien, Le Kevin Smith, and Bill Belichick discuss the possible impact of the rule change. Apparently NFL referees will be in training camp Wednesday through Friday and though it is possible they may have some more information, we'll probably have to wait for some preseason games to see how much of a change there will be. Smith and O'Brien think there will be less offensive linemen on the field on kickoffs and punts, and they will be replaced by faster players such as tight ends. If that is the case then that increases the likelihood of the Pats going with four tight ends on the roster this year.
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The best part of this article in the info on Bill O'Connell.. another person of the fabled tree... if this guy is as advertised, our ST's may improve.
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Patriots wonder about impact of ban on wedge formations by Shalise Manza Young for The Providence Journal



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Further in the article, Scott O'Brien, Le Kevin Smith, and Bill Belichick discuss the possible impact of the rule change. Apparently NFL referees will be in training camp Wednesday through Friday and though it is possible they may have some more information, we'll probably have to wait for some preseason games to see how much of a change there will be. Smith and O'Brien think there will be less offensive linemen on the field on kickoffs and punts, and they will be replaced by faster players such as tight ends. If that is the case then that increases the likelihood of the Pats going with four tight ends on the roster this year.
One of the great mysteries of the 2009 season and hardly anybody bothers to read the thread - Good catch jmt and well done SMY!
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THe LB's are more of a factor also along with the TE's.
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One of the great mysteries of the 2009 season and hardly anybody bothers to read the thread - Good catch jmt and well done SMY!
Yes, excellent article, Shalize. Teams definitely need to know when a wedge is not a "wedge". Has Bill Polian explained how it will work yet?
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Great article, SMY! Poses an interesting and cogent football question and proceeds to address it in detail without fluff.

What concerns me is this.."I think there's some interpretation there that's not totally clear to me," Belichick said. "I'm not sure if it's totally clear to anybody." Situations where subjective imprecise full speed interpretations need to be made to enforce a rule are ripe for disaster. That's why I hate offensive holding and PI. Big opportunities for game changers that shouldn't be so.
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There will be much more emphasis on cross-blocks and the wall on kickoffs without the wedge, and I would all expect to see a ****ton more reverses, reverse-fakes and "bursts" (three players receive the ball then split in multiple directions) to keep the faster coverage units from running the returner down and corralling him.
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In Gasper's profile this morning, O'Brien makes it sound like they'll be systematically testing the boundaries of the new rule in the preseason to see how it's going to be called. An interesting function of preseason I'd never really thought about.

Patriots will be counting on O’Brien’s special touch - The Boston Globe
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In Gasper's profile this morning, O'Brien makes it sound like they'll be systematically testing the boundaries of the new rule in the preseason to see how it's going to be called. An interesting function of preseason I'd never really thought about.

Patriots will be counting on O’Brien’s special touch - The Boston Globe
And we all know how well that worked out when BB tested the boundaries of Commisar Clouseau's new photography rule
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