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Old 08-02-2009, 11:40 AM   #11
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My thoughts are...

1) that I'm a little worried about him not being in camp

2) that I think he can maybe be a good contributor, based on his draft notes and, more importantly, on how guys like Seymour were raving about him this off-season

3) that no matter how wildly binky-overrated Vince Redd was around here, his release may be a decent indicator that Crable's not that badly hurt
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Old 08-02-2009, 11:45 AM   #12
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Yeah, doesn't he know that even though he has never played a down in the NFL there are posters on Patsfans.com that are relying on him?
My answer to that is....if there wasn't a problem, people like me wouldn't be pinning their hopes on unproven commodities.

Truth be told.....you can't argue the dude was super-productive in college and it seems the team has invested a lot of time and effort into him. Those are two positive indicators.
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My thoughts are...

1) that I'm a little worried about him not being in camp

2) that I think he can maybe be a good contributor, based on his draft notes and, more importantly, on how guys like Seymour were raving about him this off-season

3) that no matter how wildly binky-overrated Vince Redd was around here, his release may be a decent indicator that Crable's not that badly hurt
I just dont understand how there can be any meaning in a guy getting cut that isnt good enough to survive the first week of camp, other than he wasn't very good. Other than also, many posters who thought he was were wrong, and perhps that is why there is an overreaction.
If our season is in the hands of guys who are the "80 bubble" we are in big trouble.
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Old 08-02-2009, 11:54 AM   #14
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One of the secondary (pun intended) reasons we upgraded our back four is because of the lack of presence of a true pass rusher. You will also see a lot of blitzing this year if AD is still doing a lot of this and that and/or we don't pick up (via trade or release) a true pass rusher before the season.

If you don't put enough pressure on the QB, even someone like Damon Huard can move the ball down field.

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Old 08-02-2009, 12:08 PM   #15
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My answer to that is....if there wasn't a problem, people like me wouldn't be pinning their hopes on unproven commodities.

Truth be told.....you can't argue the dude was super-productive in college and it seems the team has invested a lot of time and effort into him. Those are two positive indicators.
I dont think I would call him super-productive in college. I think he was a good college player.
I also dont know how we have invested a lot of time and effort into him? He spent a year on IR.

Look, I have hopes for him too, but if he can't play we have other guys who can.
There seems to be this bizarre expectation that we have 22 starting all-pros. So when we don't the guy we have never seen play must be the next one. Then if he isnt we somehow have big problems.
Pierre Woods is an NFL OLB. Bill Belichick evidently feels comfortable with him playing for him. Will he be our best player? I doubt it. Can he do his job as part of our team defense concept? Yes, I'm pretty sure he can. I feel a lot better than he can after being here as a player a few years, getting coached, practicing and playing than I do that Crable can be some sort of out of the can star.

By the way, the post was also directed at the idea that Crable is flawed because he happens to be injured.
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I just dont understand how there can be any meaning in a guy getting cut that isnt good enough to survive the first week of camp, other than he wasn't very good. Other than also, many posters who thought he was were wrong, and perhps that is why there is an overreaction.
If our season is in the hands of guys who are the "80 bubble" we are in big trouble.
Andy, I don't disagree that Redd got cut because he wasn't good enough, not even close. I just think they might have been more willing to give him a bit more of a look if Crable's injury is serious, that's all.
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Andy, I don't disagree that Redd got cut because he wasn't good enough, not even close. I just think they might have been more willing to give him a bit more of a look if Crable's injury is serious, that's all.
I was agreeing with your general outlook.
I don't know how it can mean anything by cutting a guy who isn't good enough to make the team.
With out without Crable on the roster, Redd was gone.
I never buy the idea that you can read anything into the position of the guy getting cut because he isnt good enough.
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If Crable doesn't play in this season , he is a BUST because everybody expects a rookie to contribute in the second year. Period.
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If Crable doesn't play in this season , he is a BUST because everybody expects a rookie to contribute in the second year. Period.
I dont know who everyone is.
It would certainly be disappointing if the undisclosed injury that has caused him to miss 2 days turns out to cost him a full season. I suspect jumping the gun on assumin that is as bad as jumping the gun on predicting his career based on one season on IR and 2 days.
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I dont know who everyone is.
It would certainly be disappointing if the undisclosed injury that has caused him to miss 2 days turns out to cost him a full season. I suspect jumping the gun on assumin that is as bad as jumping the gun on predicting his career based on one season on IR and 2 days.
I don't know what his undisclosed injury is but he should be fine by now. It doesn't take long for Tom to be up and running.I don't see how he can sign up for 4 years and miss 2 straight years.

Would you pay a player for standing on the sideline for 2 years??? NO???

I'm concerned about Crable.

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