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10. Ben Coates
9. Nick Buoniconti
8. Tedy Bruschi
7. Willie McGinest
6. Drew Bledsoe
5. Mike Haynes
4. Adam Vinatieri
3. Andre Tippet
2. John Hannah
1. Tom Brady
I agree with 1-3, but the rest I don't know about, where's Gino.
Where the hell is Stanley Morgan?
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This is hard, but it should be. I think that is the point. I am not sure I could do a better list than others but here is my .02 on some hot button topics in this thread...
I think Gino needs to be on that list. AFL's all time leading scorer. He was the Patriots' all time leading scorer until a few years back. He was not only the kicker but also a darn good wr too.
People forget how great Bledsoe was from 1994-the middle of 1999. He was arguably one of the top 5 qb's in the game, single handedly winning games in big spots and getting this team into the playoffs. He is still the all time leader in yards and 3rd in td's. Let's not allow his tumultuous 2000 and 2001 seasons cloud what was a very good player. If he wasn't in the top 10, he at least deserves consideration. To say any list including him doesn't merrit reading is very short sighted IMHO.
Lastly, I think AV also deserves to be on there. Again, leading scorer all time needs to be considered for one of the greatest players in the history of the team. He helped get this team to four super bowls and he was clutch. That being said, I think as a kicker he would need to be near the bottom of the top 10 behind guys like Morgan, Tippett, Bruschi, et al.
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My big question is, where is BB?? If not #1, at worst he should be #2 on this list. This shouldn't be a player only list, I saw Papa Bear Halas was the #1 Chicago Bear the other day. BB belongs on this list, no doubt about it.
If the list can include anyone in the organization and not just players, then Belichick certainly needs to be included, and Robert Kraft should be considered as well.
1. Bill Belichick
2. Tom Brady
3. John Hannah
4. Andre Tippett
5. Drew Bledsoe
6. Troy Brown
7. Tedy Bruschi
8. Adam Vinateiri
9. Gino
10. Stanley Morgan
First, Belichick belongs at the top of the list, period. Hannah and Tippett are locked in near the top of the list because they are all time greats at their positions, but Haynes is left off because he is known more as a Raider than a Patriot.
Bledsoe deserves his place because he was a central figure of the teams reinvention from laughingstock to perennial AFC contender and he led some very good 90's teams.
After that, it's tough, but I give Belichick era Players higher ranking because they contributed to the team reaching ulimate greatness. So, AV > Gino, Troy > Morgan, and anybody who questions Bruschi's place on this list needs togo back and watch video from the '03-'04 seasons.
There is NO WAY that Bledsoe or Vinatieri belong on this list.
Yes they were invaluable contributors to this organization but we're talking about a TOP 10 list here. A kicker, no matter how great he is, only plays a handful of plays in any game. It wouldn't matter if he made every single kick in his entire career, he's still "JUST" a kicker.
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There is NO WAY that Bledsoe or Vinatieri belong on this list.
Yes they were invaluable contributors to this organization but we're talking about a TOP 10 list here. A kicker, no matter how great he is, only plays a handful of plays in any game. It wouldn't matter if he made every single kick in his entire career, he's still "JUST" a kicker.
I know - I mean does anyone actually think we wouldn't have won our first Super Bowl even if Vinatieri missed those FGs?