Why didn't we draft Everette Brown? - Page 10 - New England Patriots Forums

***TriplecHamp*** · 07-02-2009, 06:21 PM

Yes I realize you can trade up or down in drafts but In a draft where we had plenty of ammo to trade up but we decided to trade down. We had holes at OLB and ILB. Can you tell me why we decided to trade down? Its because BB likes to have picks in the twenties because they are value picks. It would be great if every 6'4 and up 250lbs and up LB would last to the twenties but they usually don't. That is why me and the others think that we are up a creek without a paddle by looking for the perfect LB while picking in the twenties.

***TriplecHamp*** · 07-02-2009, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by apple strudel

ITP kid with no argument makes gay crack. Kiss kss, tc. Does it hurt every time a better poster bends you over, or are you used to it?

Hahaha so posting is a skill now? You really need to get a life. Go ride your bike or something. You just admitted that your a 165lb cyclist, who's the Internet tough guy now? It must suck to be a 165lb grown man doesn't it?

***apple strudel*** · 07-02-2009, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TriplecHamp

Hahaha so posting is a skill now? You really need to get a life. Go ride your bike or something. You just admitted that your a 165lb cyclist, who's the Internet tough guy now? It must suck to be a 165lb grown man doesn't it?

Wait, I thought I was supposed to be fat, now I'm not fat enough? Jeez, tc, you really have got to keep your insults straight.

HEY BRO! WHAT UP? · 07-02-2009, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BradyFTW!

As for when's the next time the Pats will have a top 15 pick... it'll be awfully soon if they feel that the talent at the top warrants the salary. Have you actually managed to already forget that they picked 10th in 2007, or did you never figure that out in the first place?

From the point you're trying to make, you'd almost think that the Pats didn't pick a linebacker #10 overall last year

Just to make a correction, it was 2008. But you seemed to correct yourself at the end of the post.

***BradyFTW!*** · 07-02-2009, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TriplecHamp

Yes I realize you can trade up or down in drafts but In a draft where we had plenty of ammo to trade up but we decided to trade down. We had holes at OLB and ILB. Can you tell me why we decided to trade down? Its because BB likes to have picks in the twenties because they are value picks. It would be great if every 6'4 and up 250lbs and up LB would last to the twenties but they usually don't. That is why me and the others think that we are up a creek without a paddle by looking for the perfect LB while picking in the twenties.

Clearly, Belichick decided that the talent wasn't there at the top of the draft to warrant the price tag. Yes, Belichick prefers to have picks in the 20s, because the value's there, but if he saw the value in the top 15 because there were particularly good players available then, he would trade up to there. The Patriots are capable of and willing to trade forward (timewise) and trade up to get early first-round picks at their disposal. When the talent justifies picking in the top 10, they pick in the top 10.

***BradyFTW!*** · 07-02-2009, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by apple strudel

Wait, I thought I was supposed to be fat, now I'm not fat enough? Jeez, tc, you really have got to keep your insults straight.

You better watch out, now he knows he can snap you like a twig like they taught him how to do at the WOLFSLAIR.

***TriplecHamp*** · 07-02-2009, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BradyFTW!

Clearly, Belichick decided that the talent wasn't there at the top of the draft to warrant the price tag. Yes, Belichick prefers to have picks in the 20s, because the value's there, but if he saw the value in the top 15 because there were particularly good players available then, he would trade up to there. The Patriots are capable of and willing to trade forward (timewise) and trade up to get early first-round picks at their disposal. When the talent justifies picking in the top 10, they pick in the top 10.

Like he did with DeMarcus Ware?!? or Merriman? I think the talent justified picking in the top 10 that year and neither one of them went in the top 10.

***BradyFTW!*** · 07-02-2009, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TriplecHamp

Like he did with DeMarcus Ware?!? or Merriman? I think the talent justified picking in the top 10 that year and neither one of them went in the top 10.

Okay, so you've totally nailed down the first part of the equation. That's progress. Next comes the second part: what would the Pats have to have given up to get to #11 (where was Ware picked) from #32 (where they picked Mankins)? When you add in everything that it would have taken to get him, would that have been a good decision at the time?

Hindsight makes things easy. It's the same reason why everyone can say that every single team in the league is mentally deficient in the scouting department because Brady didn't go until the 6th round.

I see that you guys have all gone out and staked your claim that Everette Brown is going to be the man. We'll see if that ends up being the case.

***TriplecHamp*** · 07-02-2009, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BradyFTW!

Okay, so you've totally nailed down the first part of the equation. That's progress. Next comes the second part: what would the Pats have to have given up to get to #11 (where was Ware picked) from #32 (where they picked Mankins)? When you add in everything that it would have taken to get him, would that have been a good decision at the time?

Hindsight makes things easy. It's the same reason why everyone can say that every single team in the league is mentally deficient in the scouting department because Brady didn't go until the 6th round.

I see that you guys have all gone out and staked your claim that Everette Brown is going to be the man. We'll see if that ends up being the case.

Whos to say that this wont happen next time another "ware" comes around? Is it ever a good Idea to trade up towards the top ten? We are talking about the most dominant defense player in the NFL IMO. BB cant see into the future so why would he trade up for the next possible great OLB? Will it be a good decision in the future if it wasnt back then?

Deus Irae · 07-02-2009, 07:13 PM

I see that Ware is getting overrated on yet another thread.