Bill Belichick's Successor: Tedy Bruschi? - Page 2 - New England Patriots Forums

***Box_O_Rocks*** · 07-02-2009, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by farn

Tedy - great work ethic, etc...

To hope that he can be a BB is a bit unrealistic. Here are the things I think he could bring :

*preparation
*motivation
*previous success and therefore respect from players

But can he fill out roster ? Make the tough calls ? Draft & trade ? I am always fearful that once BB leaves, that we are in for some lean years... hoping I am waaaay off, hoping BB's successor is amazing. But I dunno. Maybe Kraft will pull off another coup after BB. We'll see.

Tedy as a position coach is something I think would work out in a big way. Tedy as HC - not yet convinced (but hoping he proves me wrong).

Gently now, most kids entering college aren't expected to have mastered the material or the application of their knowledge to the "real world." That goes doubly for college graduates entering the work force - if Tedy retires and comes back as a coach, I expect he'll be assigned entry level duties while the coordinator and position coaches take advantage of his onfield knowledge. I also suspect he has some pretty knowledgeable guidance counselors handy to help him plot out a course of action for a coaching career.

maverick4 · 07-02-2009, 09:38 PM

Bruschi is a fiery motivator, but I'd rather have an X's and O's guy to replace BB.

Also, Bruschi would have to start as an assistant coach and work his way up, which would take maybe 10 years before becoming a head coach.

***efin98*** · 07-02-2009, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Box_O_Rocks

Gently now, most kids entering college aren't expected to have mastered the material or the application of their knowledge to the "real world." That goes doubly for college graduates entering the work force - if Tedy retires and comes back as a coach, I expect he'll be assigned entry level duties while the coordinator and position coaches take advantage of his onfield knowledge. I also suspect he has some pretty knowledgeable guidance counselors handy to help him plot out a course of action for a coaching career.

Entry level meaning one of their defensive assistants or as their ILB coach?

If he's not in there directly coaching the team would also utilize his charitable and PR applications with a job in the front office like they did with Andre Tippett.

upstater1 · 07-02-2009, 10:14 PM

Weis is a fish-out-of-water in college. Most coaches are dealing with players who are running to a spot in the passing game. Charlie expects the ND kids to be on top of things like Brady and Branch were.

Deus Irae · 07-02-2009, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by upstater1

Weis is a fish-out-of-water in college. Most coaches are dealing with players who are running to a spot in the passing game. Charlie expects the ND kids to be on top of things like Brady and Branch were.

Weis was fine when he had players. Then the last of the talent left, because the previous coach completely screwed the recruiting. It's no surprise that that same coach has already lost his job elsewhere. People who want to go at Weis might want to take a look at the dearth of players going from ND to the pros lately. Weis' draft classes are now all throughout the team. This is the "put up or shut up" season for him, as a result.

***ausbacker*** · 07-02-2009, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Deus Irae

Weis was fine when he had players. Then the last of the talent left, because the previous coach completely screwed the recruiting. It's no surprise that that same coach has already lost his job elsewhere. People who want to go at Weis might want to take a look at the dearth of players going from ND to the pros lately. Weis' draft classes are now all throughout the team. This is the "put up or shut up" season for him, as a result.

I'm not considerable clued in when it comes to college ball, but from the way I understand it, 4/5ths of college football is in the recruiting, thus you can only be as good as the cattle that you have. I know this rings true at professional levels, but I would think it's more important at College levels, given the rankings system you employ.

Deus Irae · 07-02-2009, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ausbacker

I'm not considerable clued in when it comes to college ball, but from the way I understand it, 4/5ths of college football is in the recruiting, thus you can only be as good as the cattle that you have. I know this rings true at professional levels, but I would think it's more important at College levels, given the rankings system you employ.

The players are an enormous part. That's been the problem for Weis. Klausen wasn't anywhere near ready to step in as the starter, but he was still better than the dross recruited by Ty for when Quinn was done. Ty's recruits simply weren't good enough. One thing that Weis has probably learned though, is to shut up about his superior coaching. He's now learned that you can't win without talent.

***efin98*** · 07-02-2009, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Deus Irae

Weis was fine when he had players. Then the last of the talent left, because the previous coach completely screwed the recruiting. It's no surprise that that same coach has already lost his job elsewhere. People who want to go at Weis might want to take a look at the dearth of players going from ND to the pros lately. Weis' draft classes are now all throughout the team. This is the "put up or shut up" season for him, as a result.

Going year in and year out with people breathing down his neck demanding his head unless he was in a BCS game have had just as much of an impact as the decimated recruiting...why go to a school with boosters wanting his head when they can go to a school with a stable coaching situation?

Even if he wins this year it won't stop for him until he's gone...

Deus Irae · 07-02-2009, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by efin98

Going year in and year out with people breathing down his neck demanding his head unless he was in a BCS game have had just as much of an impact as the decimated recruiting...why go to a school with boosters wanting his head when they can go to a school with a stable coaching situation?

Even if he wins this year it won't stop for him until he's gone...

Well, that's the problem with the Notre Dame job today. The boosters still act as if ND is the greatest team in College football, but players don't look at it like that anymore. With pretty much all the games now available on TV, ND doesn't have that recruiting edge anymore, and a whole lot of the best players today want to play in warm climates.

***efin98*** · 07-02-2009, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Deus Irae

Well, that's the problem with the Notre Dame job today. The boosters still act as if ND is the greatest team in College football, but players don't look at it like that anymore. With pretty much all the games now available on TV, ND doesn't have that recruiting edge anymore, and a whole lot of the best players today want to play in warm climates.

I wouldn't say warm climates as Miami and Florida State have been down for a couple of years...just in colleges that are very stable with their coaches and constantly on top year in and year out like Florida, LSU, and Georgia.