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O Doug Gabriel, thanks..

BTW, its not the 2005 team was the least talented, the football gods did not want them to win that year. Didn't they set a record for most injuries in a season?



So yes, the 2006 season is the least talented squad, IMO.

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Deus Irae

The Giants weren't the better team, that's why. You have no significant amount of facts, really. All you have is one game where the Patriots lost by 3 points when the QB was hobbled and the team's best run blocking O-lineman was lost due to injury.

18-1 (1st on offense, 4th on defense, 1st in differential) is still significantly better than 10-6 (14th on offense, 17th on defense, 13th in differential). It wasn't even a case where you could use the "2nd half" argument the way Patriots fans can when 2001 is brought up, because the Giants were 4-4 in the second half of the season. The Giants got somewhat hot and rode a lot of luck to the title. There's no shame in that, but they weren't close to being a better team than the Patriots. They weren't even the best team in the NFC.

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Agreed- I think some people are just assuming that it's an insult or disservice to the Giants to say that they weren't the best team. To them, I guess that must mean that victory = talent, and there's no variation in play in any capacity whatsoever.

Would it make people feel better if I said that I also didn't think the 2001 Pats were more talented than the 2001 Rams? They pretty obviously weren't. They were more disciplined, luckier, and better-coached, but they absolutely weren't more talented. And that doesn't mean that they didn't deserve to win the game. It just makes it all the more impressive and memorable that they did. Same with the Giants in 2007.

The 2007 Patriots were more talented than the Giants. They might have been the most talented team in the salary cap era. For facts, I'll point you to the record book that they practically rewrote. But they were soundly outplayed by the Giants in the Super Bowl. The Patriots get to take home the stigma of losing despite being most talented, and the Giants get to take home the Lombardi.

To boil it down to its essence, though, how about this: If Tyree doesn't catch that ball off his helmet, the Pats win the super bowl. If the Pats win the Super Bowl, are they the most talented team? If that's the case, then you're essentially saying that they can't be the most talented team because David Tyree made a helmet catch. That's just ridiculous.

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They were being debated as perhaps the greatest team ever. Because of the helmet catch, some are now claiming they weren't even the best of 2007. That shows how insane people are when it comes to sports, and I mean in general, not specific individuals.

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TriplecHamp

Who won the Game? The Giants, The Giants were the Better Team. We may have had more tallent but they were the better Team. I have one fact for you....17-14.

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What if, What if, What if. It happend and the if I rememvber correctly that never won the game for them.

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Deus Irae

Who won week 17? The Patriots. I have one fact for you..... 38-35.

So, 16-0 regular season plus a 1-1 overall split vs. 10-6 regular season plus a 1-1 overall split. It's still Patriots all the way.

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TriplecHamp

no ring, no glory! Face It the Giants were the better team get over it you cant change it move on. Everybody on the Pats and all the real football fans would rather have that 10-6 1-1 and the ring.

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The appropriate response would get me banned.

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TriplecHamp

What are you gonna do, take away my birthday? Do me a favor, lemme have it! The Truth hurts and you know it.

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