Ranking the most talented Patriots teams in NFL history - Page 3 - New England Patriots Forums

***Leave No Doubt*** · 06-29-2009, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by AndyJohnson

I guess it depends on how you define talented.

I thought the same thing. My vote goes to the 04 team; back-to-back cap-era SB's says a lot

jeffbiologist · 06-29-2009, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by farn

I'm on crack (I guess) because I'll go with the 04 as #1. Here's the problem : people equate talent with the offensive side of the ball.

#1-the 04 team only lost 2 games (one more than the guys from 07)
#2-the playoff wins were much, much more impressive as they steamrolled the best teams one after the other
#3-the defense of that team was better than the 07 defense (banged up secondary ? yes. but WOW, the rest of the gang was on fire)
#4-fluke, lucky... whatever you say about the 07 team NOT winning, there is something to be said for the 04 team that DID win

Yup,yup, gotta agree with you here! 04 we beat the best O and the best D on consecutive weeks....handily!

And the 02 team is vastly under-appreciated. I was at that last game of the year when we were down by 11 to Miami with 2 minutes to go......a TD, 2pt conversion, a D stop, a field goal to tie and another to WIN....only to have Mr Favre lose to the Jets...or we would be talking about 4 straight SBs! The roster had the same names, so I would have to conclude it had similar talent.

Our 09 team isnt nearly as flush with talent as we were in 04. Paying the D line, TB,wr's & all has thinned our depth without a doubt. We are thinner NOW than we have ever been since BB took over, and will rely on rookies and unproven 2-3 year guys to fill MAJOR holes.

I also think the 85 team was too low. I think there were more guys making the pro bowl from that team than any other. Our LBs and WRs were deep, our DBs were ballhawks and they were more than lucky to win that many games on the road to the SB.

***AndyJohnson*** · 06-29-2009, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RDS11

Are you saying that the 2001 team would beat the 2007 team if they played each other ? I think the 2007 team would win more times than they would lose...the 2001 team beat the Rams by 3 points on a late field goal in the Super Bowl. Stats wise, the 2007 Pats had a better offense than the 2001 Rams...I would assume then that on a 2001 vs 2007 matchup, the 2007 team would score more than 17 points. Heck, they could have taken the lead and never look back.

The team that showed up for SB XXXVI would have beaten the team that showed up for SB XXXXII.
Ultimately, the ability to win the big one is the 'talent' I value most.

Deus Irae · 06-29-2009, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AndyJohnson

The team that showed up for SB XXXVI would have beaten the team that showed up for SB XXXXII.
Ultimately, the ability to win the big one is the 'talent' I value most.

And Trent Dilfer was better than Marino, Fouts and Kelly.

***VJCPatriot*** · 06-29-2009, 08:01 PM

The 2008 team does not make the top 10 list. Not only did they miss the playoffs but they didn't have Brady. And no the few snaps he took in game 1 before being lost for the season doesn't count. The 2008 team also sported one of the Pats worst secondaries in recent memory and a luke warm pass rush.

farn · 06-29-2009, 09:06 PM

01 team beats 07 on SB Sunday... as mentionned above. But I might still put the 07 team ahead based on talent.

BUT - I'd still go 04 & 03 as #1 and #2.

In those two years, there was hardly ever a time during games when I thought, "Oh no, we're gonna allow points and blow it !". In 07, I was thinking that in most of the second part of the season and in the playoffs (mind you, what an exciting run).

bagwell368 · 06-29-2009, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by PATRIOTSFANINPA

I thought about making a thread on ranking from 1 to 10 of the MOST Talented Patriots teams in NFL history based on quality of depth on the roster and individual performances of all the players within that particular year and combined into one team.

After the first 3 Patriots teams which is probably agreed by everyone,I think it gets a little tricky,Getting to the Super Bowl or having a better record is not always the indicator of talent on the roster but sometimes a little bit of luck along the way is the factor,so some may disagree but here is my rankings from #1 being superior best fully stocked talent across the board to #10 which was good but not great.

#1 - 2007 team - Likely the unanimous choice at #1 unless you are on crack
#2 - 2004 team - Team had great depth and won many nail biters
#3 - 2003 team - After week 1,they got together and turned out the lights
#4 - 2008 team - No Brady after a 1/4 of play but still talented than most
#5 - 1995 team - Drew Bledsoe & a cast of talented but little known players
#6 - 1976 team - A loaded championship team with bad fortune
#7 - 2001 team - Brady with a cast of 'who is that?' overachieving players
#8 - 1985 team - Sure they made the SB but talent was below the top 8
#9 - 2006 team - With some AFCCG defense in the 4th qtr they win it all
#10 -1978 team - Fairbanks exit disrupted a championship talented team

I left out a very good 1986 team but I think the 1978 squad was more talented.

#1 '04
#2 '03
#3 '01
#4 '07 - sorry, no SB, no top 3
#5 '76
#6 '85
#7 '96
#8 '06
#9 '86
#10 '64

Wildo7 · 06-29-2009, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by bagwell368

#1 '04
#2 '03
#3 '01
#4 '07 - sorry, no SB, no top 3
#5 '76
#6 '85
#7 '96
#8 '06
#9 '86
#10 '64

So you don't think the 2001 Rams were more talented than the Pats?

***TommyBrady12*** · 06-29-2009, 11:09 PM

hey guys don't forget the 2004 team was voted the 9th greatest team ever by the NFL Network in its America's game series. You have to win a super bowl to be considered truly one of the greats. just be thankful the 07' pats didn't play the 93' cowboys in the super bowl.

***TruthSeeker*** · 06-29-2009, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by farn

01 team beats 07 on SB Sunday... as mentionned above.

No they don't - they didn't have the push rush. Without the incredible pass rush by the Giants, the offense wins the game.