feldspar

Who doesn't? You?

Hey, you don't respect my team, that's fine. That's part of the FUN of the game. That's right, fun. It's a game...entertainment. I don't play the game, and neither do you, I suspect. I'm more worried about respecting individuals, namely me and mine. Those that want respect, give respect. I think it was Tony Soprano that said that. Very wise man.

What if you lived in Detroit? You would be a Lion's fan...0-16. If I said "the Lions suck," would you act as though I just slapped your mother? Get a grip. Me? I'd say, "yeah, the Lions DO suck," and I'd remember to differentiate that we weren't talking about me, those I care about, or the city in which I live.

Double G

I already told you I don't hate you or any Bills fan for that matter; pity is the word I'd choose.

And you don't know me from Adam; my self worth is not tied into my team beating your team.

The Patriots lost the Super Bowl vs the Giants and the perfect season got flushed down the toilet, but guess what; the sun came up the next day. Every day above ground is a good day, I've had enough personal tragedy in my life the past year and a half to put sports in it's proper perspective, so relax.

I could care less what team you root for; the post you made where you drooled over the Tyree catch, talked about the Panther kick that sailed out of bounds, mentioned the tuck rule and topped it off with a spygate reference was annoying. You are on a Patriots fan forum in case you forgot.

It would be like me coming to your forum and talking about the Norwood miss, losing four strait super bowls, your team roaring out of the gate in 2003 and then faltering down the stretch and missing the playoffs and the possibility of the Bills moving to Toronto.

Then you compound things by giving a blow by blow description of the Tyree catch, like none of us are familar with the play, which would be like me telling you blow by blow about Norwood missing the field goal vs the Giants.

And you fit the classic "Hey, I just want to talk football" pattern I've seen from opposing fans time and time and time again (Dino and Gunnails among others not withstanding), only to turn into a Patriot basher in the end.

Prove me wrong.

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Patjew

Hey, I never said I didn't like you! Not exactly...

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feldspar

Yeah, she's fine. It's kinda hard to be popular when you are so far outnumbered was the thing, I guess. I used to hate T.O. before he came to Buffalo, too. I asked my father why that was, and he told me it's because we are a couple of whores. I had to agree.

The air-time T.O. gets, often over nothing, is ridiculous. I still think it's ridiculous, but now I also kinda like it. I know the only reason for that is that he's on my team now, which still kinda feels surreal.

That's alright. Who could ever hate a Jew? LOL. Certainly not me. I was kinda surprised by the way you came out and said it, since I didn't intentionally offend anyone. Thought it was unfair is all. That's why I remember it. But it's not a big deal. I've got thicker skin than that...didn't cry or anything. Don't be sorry. I expected someone to say something like that anyway, coming here with an unpopular opinion.

I just prefer it when people get to know me before they decide not to like me. Usually, I don't like them either.

feldspar

Dunno, buddy, that post was edited like six minutes after it was originally posted. I remember you saying "I don't like you." Those were the exactly words. Maybe, being the good-hearted man you are, you decided that was a little harsh and changed it, if that was in fact the same post I am talking about.

Doesn't really matter, though, does it. What really matter is that the Bills must have felt like Appolo Creed in Rocky II when Norwood missed that field goal.

Patjew

I wish I could deny that, but I trust your memory on it. Funny, I don't think I usually say "I like you" or "I don't like you", and evidently I used them both on you. How ironical.

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Patjew

Yes, truly unimagineable!

Anyhoo, I'm flying in from China to see your boys play mine in the season opener. I hope that a good time is had by all and that the Pats kick ass. If you come in for the game, let me know.

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Deus Irae

Ok, time to crack out the peace pipe and find something we can all agree on.

Let's start out easy.....

Lions suck.

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feldspar

That's a form of patronism, isn't it? I happen to love being a Bills fan, and I have fun during every game. The only time I'm truly upset is when we lost when I felt we should have won.

Good for the two of us...and I'm not the butt-munch on whatever youtube video you sarcasticly accused me of being, either.

You first.

Fair enough.

If it was annoying, just remember that it wasn't disrespectful. I do continue to drool over the Tyree catch. No offense, but I like it as much as you don't...but even YOU should appreciate it for what it is as a football fan. I'm not rubbing your nose in it; it's in the title of the thread, so I talked about it. Never said "ha, ha" or anything. The article called it the play of the decade. It was a damn good play...won't see anything like that in a long time in that situation. I only brought up the kick out of bounds because somebody said something about the Tyree catch being luck, so I was playing devil's advocate. The tuck rule was part of the article the thread was about. Was it or was it not a memorable call? Again, I didn't put a value judgment on it. I asked if anyone had a problem with it being called the most memorable call. Then I said I sure do remember it, as does just about any football fan I know.

I'm not causing trouble at all...at least not trying to. Gimme a break. The Patriots have won three Super Bowls this decade. What more do you want?

No it wouldn't.

First of all, you are free to come to my Bills board and talk about the subject of any thread. Please do. We like to hear opinions of others. I mainly go to buffalorange.com. My username their is Westphal, which is my real last name, by the way.

Please come and give your honest opinion. Just remember to show some respect, as I've done here.

BTW, someone already DID bring up wide-right and losing four Super Bowls in a Row in a rub-your-nose-in-it type fashion, but that's to be expected because I'm on your board. Would you care to bring up the Music City Miracle? Go ahead...I'm game.

That catch is what the thread is about. If you aren't over it now, maybe you need some therapy or shouldn't look into such threads. I was comparing the Manning-to-Tyree catch to Vinitieri's kick as the play of the decade. That's all it was. Sorry you couldn't stomach the graphicness of it all

Patjew and Deus Irae used to hate me too.

I'm working on that. Might take some time. Meantime, you might give me a chance, right? Take my word that I'm not here to bash the Patriots. I already said what a good team they are. I'd rate them top two in the league right now. Sorry if everything doesn't always go their way.

feldspar

Flying in from China? How friggin' long does that take? When you land, be sure to tell everyone "I just flew in from China, and boy are my arms tired." I heard there are trillions of people in China. If there were a simple answer, I'd ask you how it is in China. Knew a guy that lived in Japan for a while, but that's hardly the same thing.

That opening game is going to be crazy...Brady's return and all that. There is going to be fan/media frenzy about that. Also, I'd be completely shocked if the Patriots lost that game. They've pretty much had the Bills' number for quite some time, to say the least. I can't make it to that game myself...I don't have the arm strength.