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Old 06-12-2009, 01:02 PM   #1
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Default End of minicamp roster -- 7 cuts needed to sign all rookies

Now that minicamp is over, there is a six-week period until the Pats begin training camp, the next time they practice. The roster currently stands at 87, meaning that in order to sign all rookies (1 of 12 is signed so far, which means a roster move will have to be made once the 6th rookie is signed), seven players need to be cut before training camp, assuming all rookies are signed by then. My guesses are in bold. White, Kettani, and Barnes are all candidates to go on Reserve/Military (like Eckel did with the Dolphins in 2005 and TE Travis Dekker (AF) did with the Packers this year). McKenzie going on IR is also a possibility. Tate going on R/PUP is a long shot, if not an impossibility.

Barnes and White have missed all of the open OTAs and minicamp. Wendell is expendable; there are three layers of healthy interior OL depth (there are 7 OTs, but LeVoir has been out). Kettani isn't going to make it as a FB in this offense. Adams is expandable once Warren and/or Green get back. Love is expendable once Richardson is healthy. There isn't room for a camp leg like Malone.

QB - Tom Brady
QB - Kevin O'Connell
QB - Matt Gutierrez
QB - Brian Hoyer

RB - Laurence Maroney
RB - Sammy Morris
RB - Kevin Faulk
RB - Fred Taylor
RB - BenJarvus Green-Ellis
FB - Eric Kettani

WR - Randy Moss
WR - Wes Welker
WR - Joey Galloway
WR - Greg Lewis
WR - Sam Aiken
WR - Brandon Tate
WR - Julian Edelman
WR - Robert Ortiz
WR - Terrence Nunn
WR - Tyree Barnes
WR - Shun White

TE - Benjamin Watson
TE - Chris Baker
TE - Alex Smith
TE - David Thomas
TE - Tyson DeVree

T - Matt Light
T - Nick Kaczur
T - Sebastian Vollmer
T - Mark LeVoir
T - Wesley Britt
T - Ryan O'Callaghan
T - Jermail Porter

G - Logan Mankins
G - Stephen Neal
C - Dan Koppen
G/C - Russ Hochstein
G/C - Rich Ohrnberger
G/C - Billy Yates
G - George Bussey
C - Al Johnson
G/C - Dan Connolly
G/C - Ryan Wendell

DE - Richard Seymour
DE - Ty Warren
DE - Jarvis Green
DE - Mike Wright
DE - Le Kevin Smith
DE - Darryl Richard
DE - Titus Adams

NT - Vince Wilfork
NT - Ron Brace
NT - Myron Pryor
NT - Steve Williams

OLB - Adalius Thomas
OLB - Pierre Woods
OLB - Shawn Crable
OLB - Tully Banta-Cain
OLB - Vince Redd

ILB - Jerod Mayo
ILB - Tedy Bruschi
ILB - Gary Guyton
ILB - Tyrone McKenzie
ILB - Paris Lenon
ILB - Eric Alexander
ILB - Vinny Ciurciu
ILB - Antonio Appleby

CB - Leigh Bodden
CB - Shawn Springs
CB - Jonathan Wilhite
CB - Darius Butler
CB - Terrence Wheatley
CB - Mike Richardson
CB - Jamar Love

S - Brandon Meriweather
S - James Sanders
S - Patrick Chung
S - Tank Williams
S - Brandon McGowan
S - Antwain Spann

K - Stephen Gostkowski
P - Chris Hanson
P - Tom Malone
LS - Nathan Hodel
LS - Jake Ingram
ST - Ray Ventrone
ST - Matthew Slater
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Old 06-12-2009, 01:34 PM   #2
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Default Re: End of minicamp roster -- 7 cuts needed to sign all rookies

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Now that minicamp is over, there is a six-week period until the Pats begin training camp, the next time they practice. The roster currently stands at 87, meaning that in order to sign all rookies (1 of 12 is signed so far, which means a roster move will have to be made once the 6th rookie is signed), seven players need to be cut before training camp, assuming all rookies are signed by then. My guesses are in bold. White, Kettani, and Barnes are all candidates to go on Reserve/Military (like Eckel did with the Dolphins in 2005 and TE Travis Dekker (AF) did with the Packers this year). McKenzie going on IR is also a possibility. Tate going on R/PUP is a long shot, if not an impossibility.

Barnes and White have missed all of the open OTAs and minicamp. Wendell is expendable; there are three layers of healthy interior OL depth (there are 7 OTs, but LeVoir has been out). Kettani isn't going to make it as a FB in this offense. Adams is expandable once Warren and/or Green get back. Love is expendable once Richardson is healthy. There isn't room for a camp leg like Malone.

QB - Tom Brady
QB - Kevin O'Connell
QB - Matt Gutierrez
QB - Brian Hoyer

RB - Laurence Maroney
RB - Sammy Morris
RB - Kevin Faulk
RB - Fred Taylor
RB - BenJarvus Green-Ellis
FB - Eric Kettani

WR - Randy Moss
WR - Wes Welker
WR - Joey Galloway
WR - Greg Lewis
WR - Sam Aiken
WR - Brandon Tate
WR - Julian Edelman
WR - Robert Ortiz
WR - Terrence Nunn
WR - Tyree Barnes
WR - Shun White

TE - Benjamin Watson
TE - Chris Baker
TE - Alex Smith
TE - David Thomas
TE - Tyson DeVree

T - Matt Light
T - Nick Kaczur
T - Sebastian Vollmer
T - Mark LeVoir
T - Wesley Britt
T - Ryan O'Callaghan
T - Jermail Porter

G - Logan Mankins
G - Stephen Neal
C - Dan Koppen
G/C - Russ Hochstein
G/C - Rich Ohrnberger
G/C - Billy Yates
G - George Bussey
C - Al Johnson
G/C - Dan Connolly
G/C - Ryan Wendell

DE - Richard Seymour
DE - Ty Warren
DE - Jarvis Green
DE - Mike Wright
DE - Le Kevin Smith
DE - Darryl Richard
DE - Titus Adams

NT - Vince Wilfork
NT - Ron Brace
NT - Myron Pryor
NT - Steve Williams

OLB - Adalius Thomas
OLB - Pierre Woods
OLB - Shawn Crable
OLB - Tully Banta-Cain
OLB - Vince Redd

ILB - Jerod Mayo
ILB - Tedy Bruschi
ILB - Gary Guyton
ILB - Tyrone McKenzie
ILB - Paris Lenon
ILB - Eric Alexander
ILB - Vinny Ciurciu
ILB - Antonio Appleby

CB - Leigh Bodden
CB - Shawn Springs
CB - Jonathan Wilhite
CB - Darius Butler
CB - Terrence Wheatley
CB - Mike Richardson
CB - Jamar Love

S - Brandon Meriweather
S - James Sanders
S - Patrick Chung
S - Tank Williams
S - Brandon McGowan
S - Antwain Spann

K - Stephen Gostkowski
P - Chris Hanson
P - Tom Malone
LS - Nathan Hodel
LS - Jake Ingram
ST - Ray Ventrone
ST - Matthew Slater
McKenzie will go on IR as soon as he signs his contract.
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Old 06-12-2009, 01:35 PM   #3
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QB - Tom Brady
QB - Kevin O'Connell

RB - Laurence Maroney
RB - Sammy Morris
RB - Kevin Faulk
RB - Fred Taylor
RB - BenJarvus Green-Ellis

WR - Randy Moss
WR - Wes Welker
WR - Joey Galloway
WR - Greg Lewis
WR - Brandon Tate (PUP)
WR - Julian Edelman

TE - Benjamin Watson
TE - Chris Baker

T - Matt Light
T - Nick Kaczur
T - Sebastian Vollmer
T - Mark LeVoir

G - Logan Mankins
G - Stephen Neal
C - Dan Koppen
G/C - Russ Hochstein
G/C - Rich Ohrnberger
G/C - Dan Connolly

DE - Richard Seymour
DE - Ty Warren
DE - Jarvis Green
DE - Mike Wright
DE - Le Kevin Smith

NT - Vince Wilfork
NT - Ron Brace

OLB - Adalius Thomas
OLB - Pierre Woods
OLB - Shawn Crable
OLB - Tully Banta-Cain
OLB - Vince Redd

ILB - Jerod Mayo
ILB - Tedy Bruschi
ILB - Gary Guyton
ILB - Paris Lenon

CB - Leigh Bodden
CB - Shawn Springs
CB - Jonathan Wilhite
CB - Darius Butler
CB - Terrence Wheatley

S - Brandon Meriweather
S - James Sanders
S - Patrick Chung
S - Tank Williams

K - Stephen Gostkowski
P - Chris Hanson
LS - Jake Ingram
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QB - Tom Brady
QB - Kevin O'Connell

RB - Laurence Maroney
RB - Sammy Morris
RB - Kevin Faulk
RB - Fred Taylor
RB - BenJarvus Green-Ellis

WR - Randy Moss
WR - Wes Welker
WR - Joey Galloway
WR - Greg Lewis
WR - Brandon Tate (PUP)
WR - Julian Edelman

TE - Benjamin Watson
TE - Chris Baker

T - Matt Light
T - Nick Kaczur
T - Sebastian Vollmer
T - Mark LeVoir

G - Logan Mankins
G - Stephen Neal
C - Dan Koppen
G/C - Russ Hochstein
G/C - Rich Ohrnberger
G/C - Dan Connolly

DE - Richard Seymour
DE - Ty Warren
DE - Jarvis Green
DE - Mike Wright
DE - Le Kevin Smith

NT - Vince Wilfork
NT - Ron Brace

OLB - Adalius Thomas
OLB - Pierre Woods
OLB - Shawn Crable
OLB - Tully Banta-Cain
OLB - Vince Redd

ILB - Jerod Mayo
ILB - Tedy Bruschi
ILB - Gary Guyton
ILB - Paris Lenon

CB - Leigh Bodden
CB - Shawn Springs
CB - Jonathan Wilhite
CB - Darius Butler
CB - Terrence Wheatley

S - Brandon Meriweather
S - James Sanders
S - Patrick Chung
S - Tank Williams

K - Stephen Gostkowski
P - Chris Hanson
LS - Jake Ingram
I doubt we only take 2 Tight Ends into the season. My guess is that he will take Alex Smith instead of Dan Connolly or maybe David Thomas. I really like Myron Pryor aswell.
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There isn't room for a camp leg like Malone.
I'm thinking if the Pats IR McKenzie and also release maybe Ortiz or Nunn, then BB can keep Malone and also sign a kicker for camp fodder - and try to save Gostkowski and Hanson's legs for the regular season.
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QB - Tom Brady
QB - Kevin O'Connell

RB - Laurence Maroney
RB - Sammy Morris
RB - Kevin Faulk
RB - Fred Taylor
RB - BenJarvus Green-Ellis

WR - Randy Moss
WR - Wes Welker
WR - Joey Galloway
WR - Greg Lewis
WR - Brandon Tate (PUP)
WR - Julian Edelman

TE - Benjamin Watson
TE - Chris Baker

T - Matt Light
T - Nick Kaczur
T - Sebastian Vollmer
T - Mark LeVoir

G - Logan Mankins
G - Stephen Neal
C - Dan Koppen
G/C - Russ Hochstein
G/C - Rich Ohrnberger
G/C - Dan Connolly

DE - Richard Seymour
DE - Ty Warren
DE - Jarvis Green
DE - Mike Wright
DE - Le Kevin Smith

NT - Vince Wilfork
NT - Ron Brace

OLB - Adalius Thomas
OLB - Pierre Woods
OLB - Shawn Crable
OLB - Tully Banta-Cain
OLB - Vince Redd

ILB - Jerod Mayo
ILB - Tedy Bruschi
ILB - Gary Guyton
ILB - Paris Lenon

CB - Leigh Bodden
CB - Shawn Springs
CB - Jonathan Wilhite
CB - Darius Butler
CB - Terrence Wheatley

S - Brandon Meriweather
S - James Sanders
S - Patrick Chung
S - Tank Williams

K - Stephen Gostkowski
P - Chris Hanson
LS - Jake Ingram
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My guess is that Tate and McKenzie will be on reserve PUP until mid-season, then on IR.
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My guess is that Tate and McKenzie will be on reserve PUP until mid-season, then on IR.
McKenzie has a season ending injury, why put him on PUP and not

on IR?
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The TOPIC is not who will make the final roster people. The topic is what the roster is right now and what the Pats would have to do to sign all their rookies as they head into TC in 6 weeks.

More than likely, McKenzie will not be signed to his contract until after the season starts. Then, he'll immediately be put on the IR.

Tate will probably start on the PUP. Whether he goes to the active roster or to the IR remains to be seen. But I don't believe you can put a player on the PUP until camp starts. So, Tate could be a late signing as well.

The Pats may put Kettani, White and Barnes on the Reserve/Military list as Pats1 suggested, but I am not sure they would want to pay the money. They might, but I'm not sure how that works..

None of Pats1's picks are out of this world. In fact, they are pretty obvious.

I am disappointed that LaVoir, Meriweather, and Mayo were not at the OTA's and mini camp. Hopefully, all is well with them.
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McKenzie will go on IR as soon as he signs his contract.
Someone please correct me if I am wrong but isn't there a restriction on players attending practices while on IR? I believe there is. It would behoove both Mckenzie and Tate to NOT be placed on IR until they complete as much of the classroom practices as they can. I believe there is no restriction for Pupped players. Can a knowledgeable player detail if there are restrictions and what they consist of?

It would give both a Leg up on their sophomore orientations. (Pardon the pun.)

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