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Pats726 · 05-26-2009, 02:45 PM

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FROM PFT....I know it is way early BUT starting off at an impasse never good at all. Th eleague wants the percentage to be reduced TAKING SOMETHING...the players want the books open to see why. AND it seems the league just says nyet. Hmmm I am glad they started now.

***Tunescribe*** · 05-26-2009, 02:52 PM

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ProFootballTalk.com - First CBA Skirmish Not Going Well
FROM PFT....I know it is way early BUT starting off at an impasse never good at all. Th eleague wants the percentage to be reduced TAKING SOMETHING...the players want the books open to see why. AND it seems the league just says nyet. Hmmm I am glad they started now.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that this will end in Goodell's demise.

Pats726 · 05-26-2009, 03:25 PM

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I'm keeping my fingers crossed that this will end in Goodell's demise.

I wonder...and at times if one of the side issues is that Goodell is gone..MAYBE a year without football would be worth it. Unfortunately, the owners are really pushing a LOT of this...and acting foolishly at least at this point.
"Hey can you give me some money? "Can I see your wallet first"" "No Way"...."Sorry"....SO far that is what has happened...the teams are crying poor and the players called their bluff.

***Tunescribe*** · 05-26-2009, 03:32 PM

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I wonder...and at times if one of the side issues is that Goodell is gone..MAYBE a year without football would be worth it.

Interesting point. I would almost be willing to go a year without football if it gets rid of Goodell and all his tinkering with the game. The whole league -- players AND owners -- needs a reality check.

efin98 · 05-26-2009, 03:38 PM

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I wonder...and at times if one of the side issues is that Goodell is gone..MAYBE a year without football would be worth it. Unfortunately, the owners are really pushing a LOT of this...and acting foolishly at least at this point.
"Hey can you give me some money? "Can I see your wallet first"" "No Way"...."Sorry"....SO far that is what has happened...the teams are crying poor and the players called their bluff.

A year without football for who?

Goodell won't get fired short of getting sent to jail or defrauding the league and the owners will field a team of rejects, retirees, and guys off the street if the players walk.

Pujo · 05-26-2009, 03:42 PM

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A year without football for who?

Goodell won't get fired short of getting sent to jail or defrauding the league and the owners will field a team of rejects, retirees, and guys off the street if the players walk.

I doubt the players would walk. The real risk is the same as it was in the 90's, the NFLPA can vote to decertify itself and then with no union, the players can launch an anti-trust suit against the league.

And Goodell isn't going anywhere, like you said, short of getting arrested.

***HEY BRO! WHAT UP?*** · 05-26-2009, 03:47 PM

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I doubt the players would walk. The real risk is the same as it was in the 90's, the NFLPA can vote to decertify itself and then with no union, the players can launch an anti-trust suit against the league.

And Goodell isn't going anywhere, like you said, short of getting arrested.

Nobody's walking, people need money. I'm glad the talks aren't going well. Kraft even said it himself that he wants an uncapped year. In fact, this is the best chance of re-signing guys like Wilfork, Mankins and whoever else I'm forgetting. The point is, money won't be an issue if next season is uncapped (at least for the Patriots).

Pujo · 05-26-2009, 03:59 PM

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Nobody's walking, people need money. I'm glad the talks aren't going well. Kraft even said it himself that he wants an uncapped year. In fact, this is the best chance of re-signing guys like Wilfork, Mankins and whoever else I'm forgetting. The point is, money won't be an issue if next season is uncapped (at least for the Patriots).

It'd be good for the Pats, but it would be bad for the league in the long-term, which means it would be bad for the Pats in the long term. Just not as bad as it would be for Buffalo.

***HEY BRO! WHAT UP?*** · 05-26-2009, 04:12 PM

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It'd be good for the Pats, but it would be bad for the league in the long-term, which means it would be bad for the Pats in the long term. Just not as bad as it would be for Buffalo.

I understand what your saying, but an uncapped year will only be temporary. There will be a new CBA in place, I'm not worried about that. However, this would be a perfect time for the Pats to go uncapped because they have a lot of key players set to hit free agency. If a new CBA is in place by 2010, you can probably kiss majority of the Pats key players good bye.

Pats726 · 05-26-2009, 04:13 PM

Firstly what is MORE possible is that the league will lock out the players...I am not sure of why really they would do that OR if they did that could they bring in OTHER players. ALl in all ANY scenario such as that is bad for the NFL...economic times are not good and NOT like in other times. Few fans of the NFL now remember the labor pains that occured in the past..I do not wish to see replacement players play...sorry..I can watch a flag football game with MORE interest. Maybe I'll watch the UFL if that is around OR watch moe college football.
I do not know WHERE Kraft said anything about wanting an uncapped year..THAT was taken out of context as he never said "he wanted" an uncapped year. Show me the link to that please.. If anything I believe he said he could live with it or something like that NOT that he was in favor of that.