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jays52 · 05-20-2009, 07:10 PM

Crable's fluidity, explosion, and speed were never in question. I'm curious to if he'll be getting reps with the 1's in TC. Also, if he's bigger or not, this doesn't have much to do with how strong he is, nor if it has helped/hurt his explosiveness. The only way we'll find that out is by watching him play with the pads on and the helmet buckled. August will tell us much.

Dirk3601215 · 05-20-2009, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Box_O_Rocks

NE was tied with Pit at halftime despite Moss having a bad case of the dropsies in the end zone. The game didn't get out of control until Slater muffed the KO and Pit recovered, I blame that on the coaches giving him his first KO in those conditions, old mudders like Faulk or Morris should have gotten the call in Hobbs absence - too much pressure on a SoCal rookie. With a lead Pit could get crazy off the edge, they did, the rest was history.

The three teams I listed were all playoff teams NE lost to, but if you looked at the games:
-- SD, Moss was beaten by Jammer, once in the end zone and once on a deep sideline route that could have put NE in the end zone. People were crying about Cassel's deep ball, but he put the ball in Moss' hands - Jammer's a decent CB, but Moss should have owned him. Get those early scores and the game changes. Recall BB's press conference after he'd watched the tape? BB said the team was competitive, a couple plays go the other way and they're in the game.
-- Indy, two chances to win, one dropped TD pass and one penalty to kill a drive.
-- Pit was noted above.

Any one of those games could have come out differently if not for some key mistakes. NE ate Miami's lunch the second time around, that was another playoff team. Look what they did to Arizona. The Cassel-led Pats were playing well at the end of the season despite the loss of key starters, they would have been dangerous in the post-season and Pit was no juggernaut to fear.

sounds like excuses but whatever. stuff happens in a football game and thats just the way it is. muffed punts, fumbles, missed throws. the point is that we lost those games. hopefully they dont lose them next year.

livinginthe past · 05-20-2009, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirk3601215

sounds like excuses but whatever. stuff happens in a football game and thats just the way it is. muffed punts, fumbles, missed throws. the point is that we lost those games. hopefully they dont lose them next year.

Do you spend as much time on your own teams board as this one?

***Box_O_Rocks*** · 05-20-2009, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by HEY BRO! WHAT UP?

Moss was beaten by Jammer? You mean Jammer was beaten by Moss. Yes, Cassel did struggle with the deep ball last year and also missed a wide open Moss beating Darrelle Revis deep in their loss against the Jets.

Moss had the ball in his hands twice, while covered by Jammer, once in the end zone and once inside the 10 running down the sideline, neither one was a reception - Jammer 2 Moss 0.

miDeuce · 05-20-2009, 07:32 PM

This isn't worth much but I work with a dude who's a huge Michigan fan and I asked him who, based on what he saw in college would be the better pro, Crable or Woods, and he said without a doubt Crable.

***Box_O_Rocks*** · 05-20-2009, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirk3601215

sounds like excuses but whatever. stuff happens in a football game and thats just the way it is. muffed punts, fumbles, missed throws. the point is that we lost those games. hopefully they dont lose them next year.

Observations, those games against playoff teams were winnable without major mistakes. There was a breakdown on those plays, proper execution would have changed the dynamic of the game - would it have changed the results? Hard to say, but a couple Moss TDs early against SD would have made it more interesting, Gaffney hanging onto the ball would have put the shoe on Indy's foot, and a NE lead at half time against Pit at home would have been encouraging. It is what it is, but just missing the playoffs at 11-5 after losing Brady did demonstrate that NE team had some staying power and would not have been a cakewalk in the post-season.

As for Crable working on his strength and looking a little burlier, it's what we should have expected; it's gratifying that he's doing his job in the offseason, now let's see how it translates on the field.

jays52 · 05-20-2009, 07:50 PM

Arguing with Box on football is like arguing with Joel Osteen on the exploitation of retards.

***Box_O_Rocks*** · 05-20-2009, 08:09 PM

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Arguing with Box on football is like arguing with Joel Osteen on the exploitation of retards.

So people formally schooled in football would have my lunch scripturally, but I make people feel good about themselves? Either way, send money to show your love of the NE Patriots.

SeanBruschi54 · 05-20-2009, 08:24 PM

So when do i get some credit?

My source came through.

***HEY BRO! WHAT UP?*** · 05-20-2009, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Box_O_Rocks

Moss had the ball in his hands twice, while covered by Jammer, once in the end zone and once inside the 10 running down the sideline, neither one was a reception - Jammer 2 Moss 0.

It just sounded like in your original post that had Cassel thrown the ball better, Moss would have beaten Jammer.