Why does BSSPN insist on tying the Patriots to every malcontent?? - New England Patriots Forums

***DaBruinz*** · 05-19-2009, 07:45 PM

Ok... So, the Patriots are now being mentioned as possible landing points for Michael Vick and Roderick Green.

I think that Myra would divorce Robert if they ever attempted to get Vick. As for Green, I've not heard anything about his court date that was the 29th of April. He's probably going to be doing community service.

Next they'll have the Pats trying to bring back John Stevens or Bruce Smith.

TriplecHamp · 05-19-2009, 07:57 PM

I honestly don't know why everyone hates that were mentioned with some of these players. It really is a form of flattery because they think we can get the most out of every player that we bring in and they are right. Everybody here hates ESPN so much so why bother to care what they think? PS: I cant wait for the Plaxico talk

Schmo · 05-19-2009, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TriplecHamp

I honestly don't know why everyone hates that were mentioned with some of these players. It really is a form of flattery because they think we can get the most out of every player that we bring in and they are right. Everybody here hates ESPN so much so why bother to care what they think? PS: I cant wait for the Plaxico talk

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***jmt57*** · 05-19-2009, 08:05 PM

I think it's just a case of laziness. It's a lot easier to recycle an old story based on stereotypes ("Pats willing to bring in malcontents") than it is to delve deeper (Pats willing to look past media perception of Corey Dillon and Randy Moss, and figure out if they can add value to this scheme.) Rather than analyze the Pats scheme to determine if Vick is a fit, just say the Pats need a wildcat QB becasue the Dolphins drafted Pat White, and the Pats need a vet QB to replace Matt Cassel.

The other part of the equation is that the Pats are a lightning rod; they are still the team that fans of the 31 other teams love to hate. To me past history says there is a far greater chance of these guys going to the Bengals or Raiders, but that story wouldn't generate as much web site traffic or television and radio ratings.

spacecrime · 05-19-2009, 09:50 PM

Much as I hate to admit it, I can see a use for VIck on the Pats.

Ugh. I can't believe I said that.

But if he is in for 7 plays a game, taking a shotgun snap moving to his (favored) left, with maroney or morris running from outside of left tackle across to Vick and the Oline blocking to the right and left guard pulling, the defense will have to prepare for a maroney/moriis/taylor run to the right, but will also need to be aware of Vick's open field ability AND the fact that he could hit a TE or WR a few yards downfield (behind the LBs as everyone forces the run.

What will this accomplish? After teh Pats do it in game one, it will require all other defenses to spend a LOT of time preparing to defend it, taking away time they normally would spend on doing Brady to Moss/Welker film.

It isn't so much what the Vick wildcat will do on the field, it is the wasted motin it will cause to teh opposing defensive planning.

And if they don't plan on ways to stop it and practice, they will be burned badly.

Hey, I'm warming to the idea.

Palm Beach Pats Fan · 05-19-2009, 10:03 PM

UGGG... The wildcat is or maybe was a short-lived gimmick that we DON'T need to emulate.

Much more importantly, any play with someone other than Tom Brady taking a snap on 1st, 2nd, or 3rd down is a wasted opportunity and a mistake.

***DarrylS*** · 05-19-2009, 10:08 PM

Can never see Vick playing here, happen to know a lot of dog owners who detest this dude.. it would be a PR nightmare for this or any team.. a real sideshow & distraction..

***Rob0729*** · 05-19-2009, 10:42 PM

I heard Clayton this weekend. He is convinced Belichick is looking to implement the Wildcat with the Patriots. That is why he has the Pats going after Vick. I seriously doubt Belichick would add the distraction of Vick so they have a guy to run a gimmick play. Apparently, Clayton doesn't agree with me.

Personally, I think if Vick was a real fit and not just a gimmick fit and there was a need, I wouldn't be surprised if Belichick at least took a look. But there is not a fit and Vick would bring more headaches than production.

MetalBleachers · 05-19-2009, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob0729

I heard Clayton this weekend. He is convinced Belichick is looking to implement the Wildcat with the Patriots. That is why he has the Pats going after Vick. I seriously doubt Belichick would add the distraction of Vick so they have a guy to run a gimmick play. Apparently, Clayton doesn't agree with me.

Personally, I think if Vick was a real fit and not just a gimmick fit and there was a need, I wouldn't be surprised if Belichick at least took a look. But there is not a fit and Vick would bring more headaches than production.

Not sure how much longevity the Wildcat has. One look at its production for Miami in their first game with it vs. their second game vs. the Pats shows that teams who have prepped for it can usually stop it. Can't see the Pats using it more than 3-4 times a game at most (Edelmann?).

VJCPatriot · 05-19-2009, 10:52 PM

News must be real slow right now for football. Hell will freeze over before the Pats sign Vick.