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He was a great acquisition and will play along side Mayo.
When I read the ranking of our defensive players on this board-I really feel some of the opinions are inaccurate.
This is a good thread though and appreciate you firing it up. This is certainly an area we need to consider but I think we'll work all that out in camp.
We should get more help
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with who they have, thomas is outside.....period........he's the only one they have who has any kind of pass rush.......the rest of the OLB's are currently flotsam
I agree with the first part of this statement. Thomas is the team's OLB passs rush.
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Originally Posted by tanked_as_usual
the pats are in worse shape this year than they were in 2005 with bruschi out
Um, a little panicked here? The 2005 team was starting Brown and Beisel. I understand that Guyton and Woods are JAGs by the powerful, mid-decade LB standards, but they have already proven to be better than Brown and Beisel.
We haven't seen much of Crable.Why would Verbal trade?Bill knows something we don't.I think he is not going take a chance of drafting or signing FA(taylor or Peppers) without a plan in mind.
We haven't seen much of Crable.Why would Verbal trade?Bill knows something we don't.I think he is not going take a chance of drafting or signing FA(taylor or Peppers) without a plan in mind.
I have seen Crable play and he will hopefully develop into a starter.
with who they have, thomas is outside.....period........he's the only one they have who has any kind of pass rush.......the rest of the OLB's are currently flotsam
the pats are in worse shape this year than they were in 2005 with bruschi out
Thomas is our leading OLB on paper, according to what we've seen (performance) and pay.
I agree that currently he is our leading pass rusher BUT to not include him in some inside support would be ridiculous.
You're incorrect though. The rest of our crew IS NOT flotsam. That is incorrect coach.
Apparently, Belichick certainly does not see a great weakness at OLB. He definitely does not see Woods, Crable, Banta-Cain and Redd as flotsam.
Yes, there is always room for improvement and taking advantage of opportunties (as Taylor could be), but Belichick surely can't be counting on Taylor AND no injuries. He didn't bring in anyone but Banta-Cain in free agency. Belichick cut Robertson indicating that there was no room. He didn't draft ANY outside linebackers, not even on Day Two.
I really think that Belichick is well-satisfied with what he has. That being said, Woods and Banta-Cain are signed only for 2009. My suspicion is that he likes Crable and Redd alot.
Apparently, Belichick certainly does not see a great weakness at OLB. He definitely does not see Woods, Crable, Banta-Cain and Redd as flotsam.
Yes, there is always room for improvement and taking advantage of opportunties (as Taylor could be), but Belichick surely can't be counting on Taylor AND no injuries. He didn't bring in anyone but Banta-Cain in free agency. Belichick cut Robertson indicating that there was no room. He didn't draft ANY outside linebackers, not even on Day Two.
I really think that Belichick is well-satisfied with what he has. That being said, Woods and Banta-Cain are signed only for 2009. My suspicion is that he likes Crable and Redd alot.
The wildcard at outside linebacker may be Redd. He is 6:6 and
260 pounds. Before he played at Liberty, he played for Al Groh at
Virginia. He has the size that BB likes on the outside.
INSIDE LINEBACKER
We are fine for the forseeable future with Thomas, Mayo and Guyton. For 2009, we still have Bruschi inside. We need a developmental fourth for the future. Hopefully, that is McKenzie. In the meantime, we will have six OLB's and 3 ILB's, with Thomas moving inside in case of injury and in certain situations. Obviously, at least two of the OLB's will take lost of reps as special team specialists, as backup linebackers always do.
OUTSIDE LINEBACKERS
I think that there will be an addition in the next month. I also think that Belichick sees the future in Crable, Redd, Woods and even Banta-Cain.
BOTTOM LINE
We are still in transition at linebacker. This year should see the last year of Bruschi and further development of Mayo, Guyton, Crable, and Redd. Woods And Tully may stay after 2009 or not. They are fine special teamers. We should see another free agent addition. First there was Vrabel. Then there was Thomas and now there is ........
I think you may have made a pre-draft report that essentially indicated that this team was in good shape with all its starters set BEFORE the draft.
Our depth has improved since then but I think all this talk about the NEED for an LB is exaggerated.
I think depth and future development is what we're talking about - and while I'd like to have more, barring injury (which is easier said than done) I'm not overly concerned about LB in 2009.
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