amazinPats

Jason Taylor is done as far as the Pats are concerned. It appears he wants to return to Miami, and perhaps he is asking for more than the team feels he is worth.

Here's why I think the Peppers trade is alive:

1. We've got the trade ammo to do it. But Jarvis Green has to be involved. He (and his salary) have to be involved in the trade. Package him along with one of the second rounders in 2010 to the Panthers, who are bereft a first round pick, and it should work.

2. Assuming Jarvis is dealt, the cap space should be adequate. Didn't we clear up $2.5 mil by trading Hobbs? Jarvis is due for $5+ mil. That should handle a reasonable contract should Peppers want to play ball.

3. If JT was in the cards, he will sign in the next day or so. I wouldn't hold my breath.

4. Was all this masterminded and plotted from the beginning? I say "no!" BB just makes deals (obtaining the second rounders, trading off Hobbs and his salary) and puts the team in a good position. It's like in chess: put your pieces on good squares and then good things happen. If they are on bad squares, well....good luck!

Still, it takes some cooperation from Peppers. He's got to sign for a discount and Carolina has to take Jarvis. Otherwise, it doesn't work.

I believe it will happen.

xmarkd400x

In order to trade for Peppers, BB would have to be able to talk to Fox. In order to talk to Fox, Peppers must sign the franchise tender.

BelichickFan

I think the money can be worked out but we'd only save $2M by trading Green - so says Miguel's page.

amazinPats

Well that's part of the deal, of course. He has to sign the tender. He won't go anywhere else without doing that. The assumption here is that he does sign the tender in order to be traded.

Deus Irae

Ok, let's pretend the team wants Peppers even at this point....


Who's getting cut/traded besides Green? Remember, Carolina plays a 4-3, not a 3-4.

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amazinPats

Well $2M is $2M. Every little bit helps. Hopefully, the can cobble together a reasonable deal to make it happen.

But I believe a deal will be made. I cannot believe that BB is going to leave it as it is; and I really think that Jason Taylor is out of the picture now. For the record: I have posted several times my preference for Taylor over Peppers, but that seems dead right now.

DefenseRules

You know, I almost shot down your thread until I read your post. What I've seen them do this offseason has made me stop and think. First we trade Vrabel before his roster bonus is due. Giving us extra cap room along with removing the cap hit of Matt Cassel. Then we trade Hobbs and save another $2 million in cap room. I'm not even saying that this will happen. I'm only saying that it's PLAUSIBLE.

That being said. I'm really starting to think that Adam Schefter's report is closer to the truth than Carucci's when it come's to Peppers.

It's a good theory though.

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ctpatsfan77

Only problem is that the Patriots likely made the deal as early as they did because they didn't want to sit on the sidelines in FA. They used up nearly the entire free space from Cassel's tag to sign Bodden, Springs, et al.

The room from Hobbs' contract will basically get eaten up by all the rookie contracts, the PS, and #52 and #53 (although there might be a bit left over).

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PatsDparty

Carolina did draft Everette Brown as well, which may make it "easier" for them to deal with Peppers. Definitely not saying that Brown is equal to Peppers, but at least they may have a viable replacement.

supafly

Taylor says he really wants to play for NE, instead of Miami--because they aren't going to move Porter back to the Strong side

Per Albert Breer. Just saw it in other Peppers thread (yeah, the 'other' one) Actually, I believe it's Peppers thread #35,762 (a)

I don't think there was a link to the article though. Looks like the Taylor talk is still alive and kicking