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Old 04-27-2009, 10:17 AM   #11
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Someone said it best, I think in the Kiper thread, that all he does is talk about numbers which makes his analysis quite boring. This grade is solely based on his board and where a player was taken in the draft. NFL Network was much better to watch this year.
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Old 04-27-2009, 10:44 AM   #12
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Someone said it best, I think in the Kiper thread, that all he does is talk about numbers which makes his analysis quite boring. This grade is solely based on his board and where a player was taken in the draft. NFL Network was much better to watch this year.
I watched ESPN most of the weekend and I can't remember Kiper going off on a numbers tangent once. He's paid to have an opinion based on his research. He is not a reporter that compiles others' opinions. I give him alot of credit for his opinion/clash with McShay months ago that made the YouTube rounds regarding Stafford and Detroit. He schooled the newbie on the reality of what and why Detroit would go QB despite a lesser rating.
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Grading a draft is like giving your opinion on the quality of food at a restaurant just by looking at the menu. Wait until it's all cooked up and served.

Florio has the idea right. Grading a draft before three years have elapsed is just an excercise in wanting to hear your own hot air. Nobody knows yet. Every team gets an incomplete. You can maybe assess how teams did with finding guys whose skills ought to fit up with team needs and making picks that were in line with the talent assessment of other teams with similar schemes, but beyond that the whole draft analysis gig is all hot air.

I don't blame Kiper for doing it- ESPN wants him to do it, readers lap it up, and it generates hits. I actualy like Mel-- He's a bright enough guy to know this too. He even has tamed his comments over the years- he used to say that a certain pick was clueless or a bonehead selection, now he more often than not says "we will see, maybe they have different selection criteria and that player fits their needs in a way that adds value to their system more than it would to others"
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Kiper does a lot of research, but I give him an F for his premature grading.
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I don't get the thing about "reaching" for a player. If a team likes that player enough to draft him at where he was drafted then so be it. Ppl tend to get so wrapped up in draft ranking, player rankings and whatnot that they dont understand different team puts different value for different players. Plain n Simple. U like him there, Pick him there...Bottom Line.
Mel Kiper, How is a pick a reach if you have him late in the 2nd or early in the 3rd and he is picked early in the 2nd? A player shouldn't be listed as a reach unless the pick is a full 2 rounds difference. Obviously, Mel is just trying to justify his existence.....
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I watched ESPN most of the weekend and I can't remember Kiper going off on a numbers tangent once. He's paid to have an opinion based on his research. He is not a reporter that compiles others' opinions. I give him alot of credit for his opinion/clash with McShay months ago that made the YouTube rounds regarding Stafford and Detroit. He schooled the newbie on the reality of what and why Detroit would go QB despite a lesser rating.
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I have not heard McShay have one reasonable draft idea. Another reason I ignored espn this year.
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I don't get the thing about "reaching" for a player. If a team likes that player enough to draft him at where he was drafted then so be it. Ppl tend to get so wrapped up in draft ranking, player rankings and whatnot that they dont understand different team puts different value for different players. Plain n Simple. U like him there, Pick him there...Bottom Line.

So Sebastian Janikowski WASN'T a reach.... ???

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ROFL he gave em a B+ because he liked our longsnapper selection? Nice. Kiper is such a riot.
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Old 04-27-2009, 06:17 PM   #19
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For what's it worth Kiper had 7 picks right in the first round. I believe most of us here could have picked 8 players that would go in the 1st round. He's all mouth.

On a side note I was listening to the radio at lunch today, Brentson Buckner (Was captain of the 2003 Panthers SB team ) has a sports talk show and he loves our draft. He really thinks Ron Brace will be a solid player.
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I give the Pats a B+ grade......

I give Kiper's hair an F!

Palm Beach Fan had I great line here: Grading a draft is like giving your opinion on the quality of food at a restaurant just by looking at the menu. Wait until it's all cooked up and served.

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