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Old 04-27-2009, 08:37 AM   #1
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Default So Peter King tell us how you really feel

Apparently King didn't like the Pat's draft:

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I think the Patriots' draft was ... well, uninspired. Keep in mind, we all said the same thing about Ty Warren, Vince Wilfork, Matt Light and Logan Mankins. But it was almost like the Patriots lost a guy (Percy Harvin? Brandon Pettigrew? Larry English?) they liked right above their first-round pick, then just started dumping, and by the time they picked, they were down to the Patrick Chungs of the world at 34.

That pick was odd. They've got a pair of 25-year-old safeties, James Sanders and Brandon Meriweather, they like very much. Is it possible they picked Chung to be mostly a special-teams demon for a year or two?
Except for well-regarded cornerback Darius Butler, the Patriots four second-rounders were greeted with shoulder shrugs around the league. I really like Brandon Tate, warts and all, because he's probably the best returner in the draft, and if he screw up one time with his poor personal track record, the Patriots can just cut him. But the upside on him -- as it might have been with Harvin -- is big when you've got such a big cushion because of all the extra draft picks. I think what I liked most about New England's draft is that the Patriots, for the second year in a row in 2010, are scheduled to have four picks in the first two rounds.
Abram Elam key to New York Jets-Cleveland Browns NFL draft deal - Peter King - SI.com

A few things:

1.) If was well publicized that the Pats looked to get into the top 10 (King reported it and may be feeling burned because his scoop didn't coem true), but either they couldn't, the player they were targetting were gone, or they weren't trying that hard. All the other reports said the Pats didn't like the quality of players in the late first round. He told the NFL Network that he didn't like the draft. So why wouldn't he trade down.
2.) My guess is that Patrick Chung is starting over Sanders by the end of the year. I don't remember who said it, but someone on the TV this weekend said he could be the next Troy Polumalu. Granted that is setting high expectations, but I don't think the Pats feel that James Sanders is the guy they want starting at SS for the next 5 years and they always like to have three solid safeties.
3.) Considering how both ESPN and the NFL Network seemed to be gushing over the Patriots picks and even scanning the message boards of our league competitor's site were praising most of the Pats' second round picks, I really doubt the picks were met with shrugs around the league.

I think King was expecting the Pats to make a huge splash in this draft by trading into the top 10 and possibly trading into the first round for a second time. When the Pats clearly showed they weren't thrilled with this draft, I think King was shocked. That is the only thing I can think of because he seems to mischaracterize several things.
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Old 04-27-2009, 08:41 AM   #2
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What King is forgetting when saying that Chung won't be a starter is that we had no open positions. SS, OT, ILB were the closest to having a guy who could compete for playing time but we took care of our needs a month ago with Galloway, Springs, Bodden, et al.

I also think Chung and Meriweather will be the long term starters at Safety.
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What King is forgetting when saying that Chung won't be a starter is that we had no open positions. SS, OT, ILB were the closest to having a guy who could compete for playing time but we took care of our needs a month ago with Galloway, Springs, Bodden, et al.

I also think Chung and Meriweather will be the long term starters at Safety.
The funny thing is that other than ILB, I felt SS was the Pats biggest need going into the draft over CB or ILB or O-line. I like Sanders, but I am not sold on him as Harrison's replacement. He is more of a good rotational guy who can play both safety position and can start if he has to.
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What King is forgetting when saying that Chung won't be a starter is that we had no open positions. SS, OT, ILB were the closest to having a guy who could compete for playing time but we took care of our needs a month ago with Galloway, Springs, Bodden, et al.

I also think Chung and Meriweather will be the long term starters at Safety.
I like Chung a lot. In each video I have seen of him, when he comes up to make a tackle, that's it, there's no more forward movement. If Chung hit Keller in the Jets game instead of Meriweather, he doesn't pick up the first down last year
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I think that's why Peter King is an analyst and BB is the best coach in the NFL.

Things that BB did that Peter King doesn't give him credit for:

1. Had a very cap-friendly draft, and freed up room by trading out of the 1st round and by trading Ellis Hobbs.
2. Build flexibility for 2010 or for trades by adding 2 additional 2nd round players.
3. Rebuilding the secondary, which was the weakest part of the team last year. Butler, Bodden and Springs are all likely to be better than our starting CBs last year, with Wheatley and Wilhite improved as the nickel/dime. Chung will probably complement Meriweather as our starting SS by the end of the year, with Sanders terrific as a 3rd guy in a rotation instead of as a marginal starter.
4. Added depth on the OL, where we have multiple FAs after 2009.
5. Signed a solid 3rd ILB to complement Mayo and Guyton.

Those were obviously the priorities. Plus Ron Brace for DL depth and a backup/insurance policy for Wilfork. Obviously, signing a big name or a 3-4 pass rusher wasn't a big priority for BB.

The man knows what he's doing. Peter King doesn't.
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And, all this from a football "journalist" who spends a full paragraph in is post-draft article telling us about flushing the toilet in an airport stall after taking a dump.

And I thought reading his reviews of coffee drinks was annoying....
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I think that's why Peter King is an analyst and BB is the best coach in the NFL.

Things that BB did that Peter King doesn't give him credit for:

1. Had a very cap-friendly draft, and freed up room by trading out of the 1st round and by trading Ellis Hobbs.
2. Build flexibility for 2010 or for trades by adding 2 additional 2nd round players.
3. Rebuilding the secondary, which was the weakest part of the team last year. Butler, Bodden and Springs are all likely to be better than our starting CBs last year, with Wheatley and Wilhite improved as the nickel/dime. Chung will probably complement Meriweather as our starting SS by the end of the year, with Sanders terrific as a 3rd guy in a rotation instead of as a marginal starter.
4. Added depth on the OL, where we have multiple FAs after 2009.
5. Signed a solid 3rd ILB to complement Mayo and Guyton.

Those were obviously the priorities. Plus Ron Brace for DL depth and a backup/insurance policy for Wilfork. Obviously, signing a big name or a 3-4 pass rusher wasn't a big priority for BB.

The man knows what he's doing. Peter King doesn't.
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...and they always like to have three solid safeties.
The concept of depth on a team appears to escape Mr. King. It sounds like he thinks that you pencil in two "starters" at safety and that's all you need. Why would you even consider needing a third safety actually capable of playing in the NFL on your roster?
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I was told last night the Patriots loved Eric Wood, the Louisville center who projected to center or guard in the NFL, but if that's the case, they could have had him at 26 instead of trading out of the round for yet more picks. So I remain mystified about the continued trading rather than picking
Value, Peter, value. We could have drafted Wood. Instead we got Butler and two 2010 #2s. Which would you take ?
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I like Chung a lot. In each video I have seen of him, when he comes up to make a tackle, that's it, there's no more forward movement. If Chung hit Keller in the Jets game instead of Meriweather, he doesn't pick up the first down last year
I was thinking the same thing when I viewed his highlight clips. When he tackles they either get stopped in their tracks or they go back.
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