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Old 04-27-2009, 09:09 AM   #11
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I think that's why Peter King is an analyst and BB is the best coach in the NFL.
Peter King is not an "analyst", he is a gossip mongerer no different from the secretary in your office that spends her day digging up dirt and spreading rumors around the office. I think "twit" is a word that better sums him up.
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Old 04-27-2009, 09:18 AM   #12
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Well, wait a minute, none of this is fair. King is very good at what he does. Unlike like a lot of "sports journalists," King actually picks up the phone and talks to people in the league. He breaks stories and has sources. Contrast him to someone like Ron Borges, for instance. Borges hasn't made a phone call since the Reagan administration.

That said, King is wrong on this one, and really I'm very puzzled by his reaction. If you look at the Patriots' roster, they had a dire need at safety. Even at OLB, a position we're all freaking out about, they have some bodies they can put in there -- Woods, Banta-Cain, Crable, Redd. But who's behind Sanders and Meriweather? Spann? They're five deep at corner but only two deep at safety. And neither of their safeties is a lay-the-wood, box safety type. They're one injury to Sanders away from relying on a converted corner like Spann to man centerfield. And Sanders isn't a really exciting player -- you'd have to bet they picked Chung thinking he'll eventually be the starter.

Likewise the Brace pick makes perfect sense given the Wilfork and Seymour contract situations. The Pats' draft starts to get a little odd later on, but those first two rounds look like a great job to me.
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Old 04-27-2009, 09:24 AM   #13
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Um.....hey Peter.....the NFL is a rough league and injuries are common, especially safeties who have to defend against the run as well as covering receivers. BB went on record saying how impressed he was with Chung and obviously didn't think anyone else was worthier of a higher draft pick. Sheesh, you'd think this guy would learn something after covering the NFL for so many years.
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Old 04-27-2009, 09:25 AM   #14
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King generally is a big fan of the way the Pats operate. I'm willing to cut him some slack. That said though he admitted on Sirius this morning when talking about Dr Z how he really appreciates how hard Dr Z worked at his draft preparation. King admitted in years past he only spent about 15 minutes putting together his mock and this year he spent a little more time on it so he understands how much effort Dr Z put into it. Admitting how lazy he generally is in his draft preparation doesn't make me put too much stock in his opinion in this instance.
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Most of my opinions have already been touched upon, but just to throw my hat in the ring...

Chung doesn't have to be a starter or a "special teams demon" (though I'm willing to bet BB will use him in multiple ST packages) in order to be a big contributor to this team the next couple years. Even assuming he doesn't win the SS job from Sanders, there are 3-safety packages we use on occasion, which may also free up Meriweather for more of those safety blitzes that were so effective at the end of last year.

Aside from Chung, a lot of reports had BB very high on Butler, enough so that some had him picking him at 23. Due to draft savvy, they were able to get him 18 spots later, while picking up additional 3rd round picks, which allowed the flexibility to get extra 2nd rounders next year.

Really, the only need we didn't address in this draft was pass rushing linebackers, and let's be honest... would any player outside of the top 10-15 have stepped in and made a difference to the pass rush this year? More than likely that answer is no.
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A few things:

1.) If was well publicized that the Pats looked to get into the top 10 (King reported it and may be feeling burned because his scoop didn't coem true), but either they couldn't, the player they were targetting were gone, or they weren't trying that hard. All the other reports said the Pats didn't like the quality of players in the late first round. He told the NFL Network that he didn't like the draft. So why wouldn't he trade down.
The problem is that he conflated something that apparently did happen with something that he thought would happen.

Let's assume for the sake of argument, that the Patriots did make the reported offers. As someone said, they could be summarized as relative dogs— offers, designed to see if anyone in the 8-10 range was truly desperate to move down.

Somehow, though, this seemed to almost immediately mutate into the idea that the Patriots were desperate to move into the top 10 for some player, and that's where King went off the rails.
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The thoughts I have about us liking Sanders can easily be shot down. If you see a point where you can upgrade and attribute a great value-cost for a positional pick, then why wouldn't you upgrade at that position?

You can always make something better.
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Well, wait a minute, none of this is fair. King is very good at what he does. Unlike like a lot of "sports journalists," King actually picks up the phone and talks to people in the league. He breaks stories and has sources.
King has great sources, but very rarely uses them for anything useful. I can't think of the last real story he broke. Too many stories of how he had coffee with some GM, but no actual text from the interview.
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King should go back to drinking his soy rasberry latte.
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Love Sirius-XM NFL Radio. But the mornings were bad enough having to listen to Bob Papa, the voice of the Giants (although I don't think he's a particularly bad announcer), but I won't even listen now when Peter King is on. Oh, well.
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