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Old 04-26-2009, 08:31 PM   #1
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Due to the ties to us and BB there will be a link to the Browns,Chiefs and Denver. The media won't let it go either so what are your thoughts on there drafts?
I didn't think any did that well drafting.
The Chiefs reached at 3 imo and didn't have many picks after that . Their fans are not too excited yet and it will take a few years to see is Pioli can turn them around.
The Browns surprised me trading with the jets and they didn't make seem to have a special draft. They did nothing in FA and I give Mangina 3 yrs and he will be out.
Denver- Does anyone think McDaniels stays longer than 2 years?

No matter if you agree with BB or not; he makes draft day exciting for us.
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Old 04-27-2009, 02:06 AM   #2
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I think Denver did a solid job. With Moreno, that offense could be nasty. Other than that, nothing special out of the Browns and Chiefs.
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At first blush, it appears that both Denver and the Chiefs both did well.
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Trading next year's first round pick is the height of arrogance for a .500ish team that lost its Pro Bowl QB in the offseason.
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Trading next year's first round pick is the height of arrogance for a .500ish team that lost its Pro Bowl QB in the offseason.
They had 2. They've still got 1.
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I think Denver did a solid job. With Moreno, that offense could be nasty. Other than that, nothing special out of the Browns and Chiefs.
Are you kidding?!? I thought Denver's draft was horrible.

Many things wrong with their 1st pick in Moreno. There need (and I mean urgent need) was on defense but no instead they draft at a position where they are probably the strongest. Not counting Moreno they already have EIGHT running backs... JJ Arington, LaMont Jordan, Peyton Hillis (FB?), Correll Buckhalter Selvin Young, Andre Hall, Ryan Torain, Andrew Pinnock (ok maybe this guy is a FB). With those guys they could have a pretty effective committee of RBs, while a couple of them could easily be starters in the future. On top of that Moreno was not regarded as the best RB in the draft, in fact most experts didnt have him going until pick 20 or later. I cant believe the Broncos picked him at 12 when even an infant knows that a late round back (even an undrafted one i.e. BJGE) can be plugged in to produce, especially in a run oriented team like the Broncos. They were having huge amounts of success with their supposed FB Hillis late last year.

Their next huge mistake was pretty much giving away their first on 2010 to the Seahawks. I dont care if you have another 1st rounder next year a team should not so recklessly throw one away. After all that hoopla they select Alphonso Smith who I didnt even see as a Top 5 CB prospect. Its looking like now they may have given the Seahawks a Top 10 pick next year.

In addition to all of that though they also went out and drafted another tight end in the second round. They already have a much better tight end corps then most teams in Tony Scheffler, Daniel Graham, and recently signed Adam Bergen.

The other decision that disappointed me was that they waited until the end of the 6th round to pick a pedestrian QB. Sure he could be good but its definitely no guarantee, steals like Brady come once in a lifetime. This guy comes across more like a Cassel type development QB. You would think with them recently losing their Pro Bowl Franchise QB the Broncos would address that early but apparently they are going to stick with Kyle Orton (thats the guy who used to back up Rex Grossman. Yuck) and Chris Simms another JAG and career backup.

Most of their other picks were pretty standard just plug into the depth chart defensive guys... no one I really liked or see as a steal for them.

At this point this draft looks atrocious but then again I could be completely wrong and it could turn out great. Im doubtful though.
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They had 2. They've still got 1.
They traded their own pick. They kept Chicago's.

My point is that if the team has a bad record in 2009, then it was a very costly trade -- kind of like SF's trade with us, but perhaps even worse.
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Chiefs got Cassel and a potential stud on the D-Line. If you look at it that way, it's looking good for them.
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Denver has 8 RBs, but they're all either below average, or terrible. I don't like the pick, but Moreno should be better than every back on the roster. My biggest issue is that RBs have short careers, and I think Denver is a couple years away.


As for KC, I like the #3 pick. I don't know a ton about Jackson, but build the lines first is classic Patriots/Pioli. Remember, almost everyone thought Seymour was a reach.

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Atlanta should be included in the discussion. IMO, Dimitroff did better than both Pioli and McDaniels...
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