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Old 04-23-2009, 01:46 AM   #21
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Here we go again. This topic has been rehashed almost as much as the "Maroney is made of glass" threads.

While it's true that Kevin is getting up there in age, by RB standards, you have to consider what he's done in the past. Has he run his body into the ground gaining 1200 yards average a year? NO. Last year was his third best total of his career with 507 yards. Between rushes, and recieving, he only has 6400 yards on those legs.

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Fred Taylor had roughly the same stats (with a lessor rush avg) as Faulk last year. Born the same year. Taylor has 13,500 yards on his legs.
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Yet, most of the people on this board were overjoyed that BB signed Taylor. Why is it that every month people feel that Faulk needs to be replaced? The Patriots wouldve had trouble the past few years had it not been for Faulk. He's clutch. He's the perfect third down back. He has atleast 2 years left in him, and as long as the price is reasonable, he needs to stay where he is. They have plenty of backs on the roster. There's no need to draft one.

Isnt this the same board that claimed, if Faulk played in KC last year, Brady wouldnt have gotten hurt? Yet, so many people want to turn over 3rd down blocking to a rookie.
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Old 04-23-2009, 02:01 AM   #22
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fans are fans...they think up all kinds of crazy stuff....all you have to do is sit through a gameday thread here to see that there is a huge "glass half empty" contingent of Pats fans...sometimes you'd swear the Patriots are coming off 7 years of consecutive 1-15's. I don't think BB is thinking so much about Faulk's replacement as he is about improving the roster using every means at his disposal...if that means drafting a multi-dimensional back in this draft, I won't argue about it. I think Faulk plays out his career here. He's an experienced veteran, sure handed and carries out his assignments. Very valuable to this team.
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I'll never understand the cut Kevin Faulk crowd.
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If Maroney can learn to block better, I think he has the tools to take over Faulks role. He is pretty dynamic when he catches the ball in space. IMO, they should use him in the passing game more.
I agree - we have Faulk's eventual replacement on the roster. Maroney will improve his blocking, has already developed good hands and isn't the very down back the team thought he would be when drafted. Another couple of years under Faulk's tutelage and he'll be ready to take over.
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I would just recall that Dave Meggett, who pretty much played the Faulk role, for the Giants and Pats, lasted until he was 36. Some people say there are only a certain number of carries and punishment in any RB.

As was pointed out, Faulk really doesn't have a 32 year old RB's body. He still has considerable mileage left on the treads.

He was an SEC record-setting back, and was a high-second rounder. Maurice Jones Drew was taken at about the same point. As someone pointed out he is the only guy that he would think of as a Faulk replacement. And I agree. I wanted us to draft MJD, but he was gone before our second round pick.
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I don't know. On the one hand, his decline doesn't seem to have started.

On the other hand, Bruschi and Vrabel seemed to fall off substantially immediately after each had his one and only All-Pro season ...
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If Maroney can learn to block better, I think he has the tools to take over Faulks role. He is pretty dynamic when he catches the ball in space. IMO, they should use him in the passing game more.
Yeah, what he said.
I don't know why they don't throw to Maroney more.
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His most productive year was 2000, the year he was supposed to be the main back. He did have two more years of good football after that, Unfortunatley, they were 2003 and 2008.

He's a good third down back, but that is it. He cannot run except a draw when a passing play goes for 5-6 seconds and all the LBs and Ss are way out in coverage and the pass rush leaves a gaping hole so big I could run through it.

Time to take his $3 mil salary and put it to better use.
With the number of times the Patriots run the draw on passing downs, opposing teams HAVE to be looking for it (unless they have the most incompetent coaching staffs you can assemble). Despite that, he always seems to get the first down or at least a good chunk of yardage if it was like a 2nd and 20.

He has an uncanny instinct for the chains, and that's not even counting his contributions to pass blocking, receiving, and special teams. $3m is a good number for all that.
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Someone on this board (who is an LSU fan) mentioned something about Faulk in college that they used him like a WR. So don't be surprised if they draft a WR and use him in the back field. My pick was Mike Thomas from Arizona. He is about the same size as Faulk and just as shifty.
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I would just recall that Dave Meggett, who pretty much played the Faulk role, for the Giants and Pats, lasted until he was 36. Some people say there are only a certain number of carries and punishment in any RB.

As was pointed out, Faulk really doesn't have a 32 year old RB's body. He still has considerable mileage left on the treads.

He was an SEC record-setting back, and was a high-second rounder. Maurice Jones Drew was taken at about the same point. As someone pointed out he is the only guy that he would think of as a Faulk replacement. And I agree. I wanted us to draft MJD, but he was gone before our second round pick.
On Meggett, didn't his career end because of off the field issues, not his play? I seem to recall a scandal involving a hooker that led to the Patriots cutting him.

Either way, Faulk has a few good years left. Those that seek to replace him are merely looking at the 3M cap hit while devaluing his importance to the team.
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