maverick4

Yes the players need to execute but it is the coaches who put the chess pieces in the position to succeed or fail. And under McDaniels the Pats have consistently choked in the big moments, even though he's had better weapons than Weiss had. When Weiss was here our offensive talent was much worse and the D gave up points late, and yet the offense came through time and time again in key moments.

As for your second point, Mike Martz also put up monster points with the Rams, that doesn't mean he was a great playoff coach or a good head coach. He was also stubborn and lacked situational awareness like McDaniels, he kept trying to throw even though the Pats played nickel or dime nearly all Superbowl against him. And just like McDaniels, the blame goes on Martz that game for his play calling, and less blame to Warner/Faulk/Holt/etc

maverick4

More lies from the resident pompous arse on the forum. I have never claimed that, whereas you constantly berate others who disagree with you.

Belichick gives lots of autonomy to his coordinators. Look at how different the D has looked under Romeo, Mangini, and Pees. Even when Mangini was horrible, Belichick let Mangini call the same lax defense for nearly an entire season.

BradyFTW!

Wow, imagine that. A thread about McDaniels where Maverick44 continues to be alone in beating a dead horse with limp arguments that have been disproven multiple times on this board. Like clockwork.

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MoLewisrocks

Get with the program, DB. When the team makes a play in the closing seconds it's to the players credit. When they fail to make plays in the closing minutes either on offense or defense or both, it's because McKid was in over his head...

Only what killed us in the SB was Belichick giving Pees the autonomy to call the least lax defense of the season...and the inability of the players on the field to execute it.

maverick4

I'm not the one creating a thread linking to a completely non-credible website to fuel the ball washing of McDaniels as some sort of offensive genius.

McDaniels is gone, I'm happy about it, and haven't made a thread about this in awhile. I did not make this thread, but I'll definitely respond when it comes to false claims about McDaniels' supposed talent.

Funny how Belichick did the traveling, meeting with Meyer and Jimmy Johnson and others, and somehow this article tries to make it all McDaniels.

maverick4

The D failed us late from 01-04 as well, and yet the offense pulled through when we needed it. With better weapons under McDaniels, he can't get it done.

DaBruinz

How is it McDaniels fault if the PLAYERS have choked? Its not. That is what you don't get. And the offense came through plenty of times only to be let down by the defense. Because the defense was such a hodge podge due to injuries... Those are things you refuse to acknowledge.

Sorry, but Martz was the HC for that game. I will point out to you, AGAIN, that BB has the final say on the plays being called in. And its BRADY who has the final defensive reads and who can audible to change the plays if needed. McDaniels did the right thing against the Giants by putting the ball in his best player's hands and relying on him and his best offensive weapons to get the job done. The Players just didn't execute. Hell, for all we know, Brady is the one who called the 3 long passes based on the reads he saw on the field. Yet you refuse to even acknowledge that possibility.

DaBruinz

Sorry, but the pompous arse is you. You have basically claimed that you are smarter than BB because its YOU who claims that everything is McDaniels fault and claim that McDaniels stinks. So you are contradicting BB's judgement of this fact. Therefore, you are claiming to be smarter than him.

Actually, BB didn't let Mangini call the same "lax" defense for nearly an entire season. You seem to forget that BB actually took over the play calling from Mangini that year. While BB does give autonomy to his coordinators, he still has the final say on what plays go in.

The D was different under the different coordinators because of the different caliber of players, mainly. But that is beside the point.

DaBruinz

Then neither could BB or Brady. And Brady has a much BIGGER impact on what happens on the field than McDaniels does. Yet, I don't see you putting ANY blame on Brady. NONE.

DaBruinz

How do you know that McDaniels didn't do his own travelling to those coaches? The off-season actions of the coaches and coordinators isn't exactly publicized.

This is another thing you do. You think that because you don't read about it that its not happening. Are you honestly that naive to think that the Coordinators and other coaches are doing NOTHING in the off-season to improve themselves?