letekro

Problem is, when guys like that lose a half-step, it's all over. Too many question marks with this guy. If they can fit Peppers in, great, even if it means losing Seymour down the line. If not, draft a Larry English type.

satz

Can he play in NFL that is the question. when he subed a few time trying rush he just did not do anything and the RT was having success.I just do not think he is a fit
as we have thomas on one side and would like a young lb on the other. no team can just add players in one position without roster consideration.if we sign him
thomas , jason ,woods,tbc will be active on game day leaving crabel/redd/rookie to be either inactive or cut.no one is going to develop siting on the bench.

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MassPats38

I don't know if I'd blame Taylor for his time with the Deadskins. As many players seem to point out before and after playing with the Patriots, the organization is markedly better than others from top to bottom. The Redskins have lacked any stability on either side of the ball, and it shows.

I'd like to see Taylor here, having actually played linebacker previously, if for no other reason than he might be capable of playing near his previous levels. That makes him likely good, not great, but with the right line in front of his he could be great still. He also doesn't carry the potentially cascading salary cap ramifications of Peppers, who has never played linebacker and lacks any evidence to suggest he will be the next Ray Lewis, at a much higher price tag.

Passion for the game is often fueled by winning, and he hasn't seen much of that in his recent years. If you are a superstar in the NFL, in a team sport, the failure of others to carry their weight in order to win games has to mentally beat you down. Barry Sanders left for that very reason, and nobody would claim he was near done in the NFL when he left. Frustration is also not out of the question given his career level of play and the quality of teams he has played on recently. Dillon and Moss both fit that mold, and they were/are contributors in New England.

sinned86

As a 3-down linebacker, sure Jason Taylor is a bad fit. As a situational pass-rusher, he's great for the Pats.

When it's 2nd and long, 3rd down, Jason Taylor will be very useful.

If the opposition doesn't account for him, he'll need to make them pay.

If the opposition is forced to account for him, then someone else will be unblocked or someone like Seymour single-blocked or that TE like Dustin Keller has to stay and pass protect rather than going in the flat and getting 16 yards.

Is Jason Taylor capable of such situational pass-rushing? I think so. Will he be asked to take on some responsibilities against the run? Probably, but Belichick knows his limitations.

For the right price, Jason Taylor will be a great addition to this team.

patsox23

If Taylor winds up here it will be because BB did his due diligence and is convinced, and has been assured by Taylor, that he has bough into the program. If Taylor doesn't agree to this, then he won't be signed. Therefore, I think he won't be a bad fit.

patsox23

Why does trading for/signing a Peppers or Taylor preclude the Patriots from drafting a Larry English? It doesn't. BOTH things - bring in a stud vet and draft a young LB - are very likely tohappen.

crowell33

The problem with drafting English is how long before he can contribute? Many good draft picks ( Ty Warren, Meriweather, Tedy Bruschi, Adalius Thomas, Mike Vrabel, Ray Lewis, Bart Scott, etc. etc. etc ) have little to no contributions in year one. Does BB want to bring in a rookie to compete for time with Pierre Woods, Tully Banta Cain, Shawn Crable and Vince Redd? 5 young guys competing for one starting spot? Maybe.

KingChre

For the record, Ray Lewis played and started 14 games his rookie year, and had 110 tackles, I would say that is a significant contribution.

That being said, your point is a valid one.

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Grizzafted

If we walk out of the first three picks we have with no LB and no Peppers, I may cry. Seriously. With the draft class at LB, I have to think Belichick is going to see a long-term upside with at least one of them...

Pierre Woods outside for the whole year is a nightmare for me. Ellis Hobbs has been bad enough.

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Sicilian

Well, I was thinking of Taylor in a vacuum, leaving the Peppers situation out of it. As the team is currently constructed, I don't see there being a significant upgrade with Taylor over Vrabel if both come at equal money. One has familiarity and IMO better 3-down capability. The other has more talent, but less familiarity with the system and might only be good on 3rd down.

Now, it's entirely possible that the Pats traded Vrabel for cap space, with the idea that they were going to either A) get someone in the draft or B) trade for Peppers, and figured, "Well, if neither happens and we're left with a hole at OLB, we can always try to coax Taylor to our team."

That's a possible line of thinking, though seems kind of iffy.