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If Peppers wants out, pay cut best bet - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

the guy wants to win a championship AND get paid like albert haynesworth. earlier this week i was convinced this was going to happen but if this article has any truth to it then peppers ain't going nowhere.

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Ouchie Well, it was fun while it lasted

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spacecrime

Well, as I see it, he wants to play 3-4 OLB, and that is fine. ANd he want sto play for 3 or 4 of the league's premier teams, and that is fine. And he wants to be paid like a 4-3 DE, which is fine as long as he plays DE.

But 3-4 OLB and 4-3 DE are on two different pay scales.

And the top three or four teams in the league already have a bunch of top players and can't break the bank of a new guy because it will throw their whole salary structure off. They will not be able to sign all their stars at the highest rate for that position, so they will gain Peppers at the cost of current players who have been dong well for them.

My 2 cents.

Zeus

I think Cole's article is pretty good. But I don't think you can assume that Carolina would franchise Peppers again in 2010 for $20.16 million. The economy is bound to put a drag on this kind of spending. Next year's free agent class may be looking at a whole lot less money than we've seen being tossed around this year.

Rob0729

In fairness to Peppers, he never said he wants Haynesworth money. "A source close to Peppers" said that he wants that type of money. And even then, the source says he wants to get paid, not that he expects Haynesworth money. Big difference.

Synovia

THey are right now, but they wont be in the next 5 or so years. Suggs is going to be the reason why.

mayoclinic

I don't think 2 cents will help much given Peppers' likely pay.

To my mind, this article doesn't add very much. It only anonymously quotes some NFL personnel people saying that Peppers wants to get paid and thinks he deserves more than Jared Allen. There's no direct quote from Peppers or his agent, or even a named source.

I agree with your analysis. Peppers can either go to a 3-4 team (and potentially a contender) OR he can play 4-3 end and get paid more, but not both. There's simply no justification for paying him Jared Allen (or even worse, Albert Haynesworth) kind of money for converting to a 3-4 OLB. If he really thinks he can get both the money and his preferred destination/position change than he has a screw loose.

If he really wanted the money he would just sign the franchise tender and be done with it. The fact that he hasn't done so suggests that there is more to it than that. But who knows what's really going on in his head.

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mayoclinic

Ware may be the reason why more than Suggs. Suggs is getting franchised at a compromise pay rate which splits the difference between LB and DE. On the other hand, Dallas may well end up paying Haynesworth-like money to extend Ware. 20 sack seasons go a long way to equalizing the pay.

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Rob0729

Also, Coles' logic is faulty. He makes the pretty hefty assumption that the Panthers would franchise and pay Peppers over $20 million next year and that Peppers won't take less than Haynesworth because he is nearly guaranteed $36.96 million over the next two years.

Personally, I think if the Panthers have no intentions of paying Peppers the $16 plus million. I seriously doubt they would pay him over $20 million next year. So unless a team is willing to trade for Peppers without a long term deal, there is no shot of Peppers getting $36.96 million guaranteed over two years.

NE39

Peppers isn't guaranteed anything until he signs his tender. Carolina could withdraw it today and the guy is a free agent and owed nothing. Granted, teams would be lining up to sign him, but the point is he isn't guaranteed anything.

Also, he made an error on Brady's money. He left out the $3M bonus he was already paid this season and said he had $5.3M coming this year. Per Miguel, he has about $8M. Still a great bargain, but nonetheless a factual error.

Cole's larger point is valid, though. It is going to take a huge contract to sign Peppers, and that might effect the amount of money available to keep other key players. Cap room aside, that kind of flies in the face of how the Pats have historically operated. Doesn't mean they can't change, but it is different.

Peppers is a great player, but his signing would indicate a big change in the team.