mayoclinic

With the Julius Peppers trade rumors swirling again, I'm a little concerned right now that trading for Peppers might be a bad overall sign of the future for the Pats, based on 2 things:

1. Age. With the Taylor, Galloway and Springs signings, it seems like there is more of a short-term focus than in years past. Is BB reving up for a 2-3 year run as his last hurrah? In that case, it would make sense to go for the 29 year old Peppers rather than a younger but potentially longer-term OLB solution through the draft.

2. Salary cap. While the FO has done an amazing job of filling holes in FA so far, I can't help but wonder how they are making it all fit under the cap. Squeezing Peppers in would be a major feat. Floyd Reese was the guy who dealt with all those Tennessee contracts which ended up putting them in major cap trouble in 2006. Are we potentially setting ourselves up for long-term salary cap hell? Again, if BB is looking at the next 2-3 years as his swan song then it would make sense to do this kind of move; we could always franchise Wilfork and possibly Seymour or Mankins (in an uncapped year) to keep the core together. But if we are looking at keeping at a SB contender level for the next 5-10 years, would we be selling out the future to pay for someone like Peppers?

I hope I'm being paranoid about this.

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Sean Pa Patriot

Well in this leauge it has to be short term..

1 the labor situation
2 Brady last year proved that every year counts
3 Its a win now leauge now..
4 Belichick and Brady have about 5 more years together..


So if its short term, or long term, 2009 is here and that is what we should be focused on.

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We going to take it one game at a time

KDPPatsfan85

Exactly one year at a time and one game at a time!! I dont think its a bad sign its a good sign in my view!!

eom

agreed.
you obviously want to plan longer term, and don't want to set yourself up for failure, but for what it's worth I've been hearing about how the pats are headed for salary cap hell the last several years, and they've probably just kicked more ass than anybody in fa just now.

don't worry about it.
the big money old timers will move on one by one and will be replaced by cool new players, as is always the case in sports.
eveybody on the roster doesn't have to be 22, nor should they be.

MrBigglesWorth

bring in peppers. how many years does brady really have left anyways?

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BelichickFan

I hate to sound like a short sighted fanboy but we have gone 4 years now without winning a SB and I'll be damned if Brady wins 3 in his first 4 years then never wins another. We have a 31 year old HoF QB - I want another SB win NOW; sorry, but the future be damned.

DefenseRules

WELL SAID! I care about 2009, I'll worry about 2010 when it gets here.
I WANT ANOTHER SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONSHIP.

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Rob0729

1.) Look at the age of the 2001 team or even the 2003 and 2004 teams. They had a lot of older players. Belichick just likes seasoned veterans over younger guys for the most part. He always has a lot of older veteran leaders and tries to add some draft picks to develop. This is the same argument people were saying two years ago when the Pats added Sammy Morris, Junior Seau, Donte Stallworth for one year, Randy Moss for one year, etc.

2.) The Pats are relatively fine capwise. The are projected to have over $67 million next year capwise. That is if they have a cap. The Pats will have three players who will need big deals next year (Wilfork, Seymour, and Mankins) and Seymour isn't a given and one can be franchised. All the other players are either replacable or old enough that they will get short term value deals or retire all together.

Weren't you the same person who was concerned that Pioli left because the Pats would have to completely build next year? Now you are worried that they are only going to be good for the next 2-3 years.

ClevTrev

You are.

The next 5-10 years? Contender? Let's get back into the moment. Peppers is no guarantee, neither is the Superbowl. Contender means that you are one of two or more. That's settling, and it's not in the cards for 2009. It's hard to win the Superbowl. When you have the opportunity, . . . . . . . . . . .

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Patriot Missile

I'm onboard with Peppers if that is the direction the team wants to go. I'm a little concerned, but I have to agree with Belichick fan. Brady and BB have maybe 5 years left and then it's over. I would like us to cement our legacy as the best team from 2001 to 2010. I think we already have by winning 3 of 4 SB's but for some strange reason Pittsburgh fans and some mediots seem to think 2 is greater than 3.