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Old 03-01-2009, 05:47 PM   #71
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I can't see the Patriots doing this [Messing with Denver]. On the other hand, if I'm Scott Pioli and the Chiefs, I place a call to Cutler's agent Cook a second after I get wind of Denver sniffing around.
I agree. I think if anyone leaked it would have been Tampa as a PR move to their fans to show that they are "trying" to improve thier QB situation.
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Old 03-01-2009, 05:47 PM   #72
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Except that the Pats aren't interested in Cutler AND Pioli is not interested in "flipping" Cassel. Two main points that go counter to what you are trying to suggest.
A third team (not the chiefs) had to be involved for that proposed trade to happen because of those facts.
Oh my god. Seriously. I'll do this one last time....

The proposed trade, initiated by Tampa Bay, was that the Bucs would send a 1st and a 3rd to NE. NE would sent Cassel to Denver. Denver would send Cutler to Tampa. (Allegedly the Lions made the same offfer as TB)

However, this trade way never going to happen because Denver was never going to trade Cutler for Cassel. McDaniels denies it vehemently. It also doesn't make sense (Cutler>Cassel). It doesn't add up.

So all the fans who think Bill got scammed, or pulled the trigger too early, or did Scoot a favor; do not know what they are talking about. Bill was never in a position to pull the trigger with that trade. Denver was. It was Denver. They said no. Not Bill. Denver.

Need proof? If Denver was really so hot for Cassel, than what's stopping Denver from - right now - proposing a trade of Cassel for Cutler, straight up. Aside from fans on this board, almost everyone agrees that Cutler has a bigger upside than Cassel. Yet, it won't happen cause Denver was never interested in getting rid of Cutler.

Furthermore, for anyone who mistakenly whines about how Bill pulled the trigger too quickly because Tampa and Detroit were willing to give up a 1st and a 3rd. Well, guess what. Not for Cassel. Only for Cutler. Repeat; not for Cassel. If either of those team were interested in Cassel for a first and a 3rd; then there is nothing stopping them from going to Pioli right now and asking to trade Cassel for a 1st and a 3rd. If you are Pioli that is too good of a trade to just ignore. Essentially, you'd be trading a 2nd round pick for a 1st and a 3rd. You'd still have the #3 pick to spend on a QB. Or you could just stick with Thigpen, who was a decent QB.

In summation; Cassel was never worth a 1st and a 3rd. That deal wasn't going to happen. Not in a million years. It wasn't going to happen cause Denver wasn't ever going to get rid of Cutler - that was just unfounded speculation. If it were true, we'd see Den or Tampa or Det scrambling to still makes a deal with Pioli - considering the fact that they were willing to spend so much more for Cassel. This deal is the result of Tampa and Detroit throwing something out there and seeing if it stuck. Bill didn't blow it, cause it was never a reality in the first place.

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