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Old 02-28-2009, 06:15 PM   #1
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I'm watching NFL Total Access right now and they had a graphic comparing Brady's '01 stats with Cassel's from last year. They pointed out that Matt did (slightly) better than Tom in all the categories (completion percentage, passer rating, etc.)

And I thought, Yeah, but Matt had way more talent around him in his first year than Tom did in his. Then again, Tom's team won the freakin' Super Bowl. But then again again, both teams finished 11-5; in 2001 that was good enough for a #2 seed, this year it wasn't enough to make the playoffs.

I ain't trying to start another argument, and it'd be pointless anyway now that Matt's gone. I just have to wonder if comparing these guys on their first seasons is really apples to apples, ya know?
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I ain't trying to start another argument, and it'd be pointless anyway now that Matt's gone. I just have to wonder if comparing these guys on their first seasons is really apples to apples, ya know?

The 23 other threads and 2000 comments say No.
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I like apples. Red Delicious apples from Washington might be my favorite, but I think Macintosh apples make the best applesauce. It's a bit of a dichotomy, but I can live with it.
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Good Lord. How many of these threads do we need?
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Well, Granny Smiths make an excellent apple pie.
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I'm watching NFL Total Access right now and they had a graphic comparing Brady's '01 stats with Cassel's from last year. They pointed out that Matt did (slightly) better than Tom in all the categories (completion percentage, passer rating, etc.)

And I thought, Yeah, but Matt had way more talent around him in his first year than Tom did in his. Then again, Tom's team won the freakin' Super Bowl. But then again again, both teams finished 11-5; in 2001 that was good enough for a #2 seed, this year it wasn't enough to make the playoffs.

I ain't trying to start another argument, and it'd be pointless anyway now that Matt's gone. I just have to wonder if comparing these guys on their first seasons is really apples to apples, ya know?
Just one argument to completely blow this away: MC had about a 3 times better offense than Brady
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Well, Granny Smiths make an excellent apple pie.
They do indeed. I might have to make one tonight now that you have given me the idea. My mom gave me an EXCELLENT recipe.
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I'm watching NFL Total Access right now and they had a graphic comparing Brady's '01 stats with Cassel's from last year. They pointed out that Matt did (slightly) better than Tom in all the categories (completion percentage, passer rating, etc.)

And I thought, Yeah, but Matt had way more talent around him in his first year than Tom did in his. Then again, Tom's team won the freakin' Super Bowl. But then again again, both teams finished 11-5; in 2001 that was good enough for a #2 seed, this year it wasn't enough to make the playoffs.

I ain't trying to start another argument, and it'd be pointless anyway now that Matt's gone. I just have to wonder if comparing these guys on their first seasons is really apples to apples, ya know?
Different OC, different competition, different strength of schedule, different team around them... yeah, pretty much pointless.
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They do indeed. I might have to make one tonight now that you have given me the idea. My mom gave me an EXCELLENT recipe.
With or without cheese?
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