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Old 02-27-2009, 11:16 AM   #21
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Schefter on WEEI this am said there is no way Peppers is coming to the Pats.
I think that's the exact opposite of what he said. I only heard the end but he said it would be a good fit for the Pats, and that Peppers would want to come here (the only afc team on his wishlist).
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Old 02-27-2009, 11:21 AM   #22
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If Peppers wants to play LB in a 3-4 scheme, he should expect to be paid as a LB in a 3-4. If he wants to play his position, DE in a 43 scheme, he can expect to be paid for that. It would take a pretty stupid team personnel office to make him the highest paid LB in a 3-4 when he has no real track record in that position. The franchise value for a linebacker is $8.3 million. meaning the average of the top 5 highest paid LBs for that position. Is Peppers a top 5 linebacker right now? Does he expect something in the vicinity of $17 million to play LB?

No way is Peppers worth twice the franchise tag as a LB right now. If he believes he should be the highest paid LB at this point, there is no way that deal gets done. The problem is the Pats could justify a higher value if they were going to use him as a DE in a 43 scheme and a linebacker in the 34 scheme for different looks, but that would seem to run counter to what Peppers wants to do, which is get away from the 43 DE role.

He is an interesting case given the diversity of roles he could perform and his talent, but if his ego is making him believe he is high-priced at any position, he does not have the brains to make this transition happen.
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I think that's the exact opposite of what he said. I only heard the end but he said it would be a good fit for the Pats, and that Peppers would want to come here (the only afc team on his wishlist).
Nothing to do with Peppers but that the deal is not happening is what I meant he said.
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If Peppers wants to play LB in a 3-4 scheme, he should expect to be paid as a LB in a 3-4. If he wants to play his position, DE in a 43 scheme, he can expect to be paid for that. It would take a pretty stupid team personnel office to make him the highest paid LB in a 3-4 when he has no track record in that position. The franchise value for a linebacker is $8.3 million. meaning the average of the top 5 highest paid LBs for that position. Is Peppers a top 5 linebacker right now? Does he expect something in the vicinity of $17 million to play LB?

No way is Peppers worth twice the franchise tag as a LB right now. If he believes he should be the highest paid LB at this point, there is no way that deal gets done. The problem is the Pats could justify a higher value if they were going to use him as a DE in a 43 scheme and a linebacker in the 34 scheme for different looks, but that would seem to run counter to what Peppers wants to do, which is get away from the 43 DE role.

He is an interesting case given the diversity of roles he could perform and his talent, but if his ego is making him believe he is high-priced at any position, he does not have the brains to make this transition happen.
Nicely said. If Peppers wants to play here for something similar to what Dansby or Suggs are making, then I'm for it. If he wants $14+M/year, then no way. It all comes down to how serious he is about wanting to play in the 3-4 as an OLB and play for a winner.
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What were people expecting Peppers to want? I mean, he is a top tier D-lineman just like haynesworth. I know they play different positions on the line but Peppers pass rush ability makes him a hot commodity. I know that he is talking about wanting to play in a 3-4 and here that would be at OLB, but I do not think he is going to want less money because of a position change. What type of contract would you want him to sign for here that would make you feel comfortable?
I don't think anyone begrudges him the fact that he wants it. We just all understand that if that is what he wants, then he's not going to get it from the Pats.
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Lets sign this guy, keep him at DE and trade Seymour at the draft for someone's first next year ..
hahahaha.... no. Seymour's a better 3-4 DE than Peppers will ever be.
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What? Since when did Peppers become *the* premiere DE/OLB in the NFL? He's good, really good, but he's not Reggie White circa 1987.

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he'd probably end up being what we hoped Rosie would be for us (before he got hurt). Nice addition, but only at a reasonable pricetag.
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