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Florio: Trading Patriots QB Matt Cassel not as easy as it looks

He sees six candidates: KC, MIN, NYJ, DET, TB, and . . . WAS.

He thinks that KC is out: "With both sides of the transaction fearful of the external perception that one of them was snookered (and with each side surely hoping to snooker the other), it'll be virtually impossible to forge an agreement with which everyone feels comfortable."

Needless to say, he sees NYJ as a non-starter, and brings up the Mills incident to pooh-pooh the likelihood of MIN.

WAS is his dark-horse candidate: "Today, most teams regard draft picks with greater value. The Redskins don't; they were ready to give up a first-round pick and possibly a second one last year for Chad Johnson. So if they decide to make a run at Cassel, they'll likely be the ones to land him."

He doesn't have anything negative to say about DET per se, except for perceptions, and he doesn't rule out TB either.

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King: I can't figure out a landing spot for Matt Cassel, but I'll be surprised if he's a Patriot on July 1.

He sees KC, DET, MIN, TB, and SF.

He then manages to dismiss MIN and SF on money/picks, and DET and TB on fear.

Finally, he manages to dismiss KC, too: "I say no because of Pioli's history. The Patriots took Tom Brady with the 199th pick in 2000. They took Cassel with the 230th pick in 2005. Let's say the Patriots asked Kansas City for its second-round pick in 2009 and 2010. Pioli values picks in the thirties the way most team value picks in the teens. I'd be stunned if he did it. I think he'd trust Haley to pick a Josh Freeman in this draft in the third round, let's say, and work with Freeman, Brodie Croyle and Tyler Thigpen over the next couple of years and say, "Let the best man win.''"

That's funny . . . I seem to remember Pioli saying "There is no other Matt Cassel. . . ."

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Moss (from JSn's link): If the money can be worked out, he wants Cassel to stay a Patriot in 2009.

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bakes781

1st time I heard the Skins mentioned as a possibility. Now THEY would be the one team who might give up two 1st rounders! haha I still think Minnesota is the favorite landing spot.

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Patriots2001

I highly doubt we would ever see a trade with the Jets.JMO

ScottieC

I can't wait for this to be over.

I just want a few Draft Picks and then move on. If he's in camp with us, this will mushroom into a "Spygate" sized story - Not to mention any time the Offense goes 3 and out - every stupid ass announcer will be talking about the other QB and if they should be in the game.

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bakes781

Friday is the 1st official day he can be traded right?

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mayoclinic

I hate to say, but this is one of the few times I've ever heard Florio make sense. I had thought of Washington, and had even heard them listed as a possible candidate. It all depends on what they think of Jason Campbell.

On the plus side, Dan Snyder wants to win now at all costs. The Skins always seem to throw draft picks around like they are water (a #2 for Jason Taylor being their most recent extravagance), and tends to overspend exorbitantly. #13 plus a 2010 conditional pick would be nice.

On the minus side, I'm not sure they are ready to give up on Campbell, and they have no 2009 #2 so trading #13 would leave them with no 1st day picks.

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ctpatsfan77

2009 third + 2010 first [+ 2010 third if they do well enough]. Problem solved.

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Box_O_Rocks

Swap 1st round picks...#13 for #23 and Cassel, with a guaranteed 2nd in 2010 that becomes a 1st on performance escalators. It's do-able.

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Bertil

No story will EVER become a "spygate" sized story.

That was a purely political hit from Day One. Every purveyor of crap had an Axe to grind. The Sports Media establishment wanted it's "Nixon". The NFL brass wanted to appease the PC Gods, having recently punished Vick and a bevy of minority players for numerous transgressions. Goodell especially wanted to enhance his "New Sheriff in Town" persona. The rest of the NFL wanted to take a competitor down a peg (or two, or three or...). Fans of other teams wanted the same thing.

Dare I say, there will NEVER (or NEVER EVER, NEVER EVER EVER in Joey Porter parlance) be a Perfect Storm surrounding a non-story like this. Cassel and Brady in Training Camp is not even close.

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Jackson 2

Nice analysis. Well-done.