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Re: [FREUD ALERT?] “Even though we’re three, we could be at 23,” Pioli said.
If we actually take a player at #3, please, please, please let it be a defensive player. If we got a Mayo 2.0, that would be DEF!
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OK. I felt that a swap of picks and their second gets the deal done with K.C. and Scott keeps a first rounder. Now we shop that pick to Carolina for Peppers and they get Stafford to groom under the Jakester. Carolina does not have a first rounder either. Everyone thinks that the Lions will go Stafford.....Why would they do that when they had a better team and drafted Harrington and he looks like he came back from a very rough tour in Afghanistan to date? He has never been the same. An 0-16 team is not going to fix itself overnight with a QB. They need too many things. Think how Long helped the Dolphins. The Lions actually do have the makings of a decent O-Line. Monroe would solidify it. They can let Culpepper have another year. The Rams have a QB that if they had some new weapons and some O-Line help they could flourish better. They have a great RB. So I say they could go Crabtree for the sexy pick or OT Jason Smith from Baylor if Pace retires or they cut him. Stafford would be a bad investment for them there. So I can see Stafford falling to third.
We get Peppers and the #34 pick. Pioli gets Cassel (is this already a done deal?) and keeps a first rounder at.....#23!!! and the Panthers get Stafford.
DW Toys
Re: [FREUD ALERT?] “Even though we’re three, we could be at 23,” Pioli said.
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Originally Posted by DW Toys
OK. I felt that a swap of picks and their second gets the deal done with K.C. and Scott keeps a first rounder. Now we shop that pick to Carolina for Peppers and they get Stafford to groom under the Jakester. Carolina does not have a first rounder either. Everyone thinks that the Lions will go Stafford.....Why would they do that when they had a better team and drafted Harrington and he looks like he came back from a very rough tour in Afghanistan to date? He has never been the same. An 0-16 team is not going to fix itself overnight with a QB. They need too many things. Think how Long helped the Dolphins. The Lions actually do have the makings of a decent O-Line. Monroe would solidify it. They can let Culpepper have another year. The Rams have a QB that if they had some new weapons and some O-Line help they could flourish better. They have a great RB. So I say they could go Crabtree for the sexy pick or OT Jason Smith from Baylor if Pace retires or they cut him. Stafford would be a bad investment for them there. So I can see Stafford falling to third.
We get Peppers and the #34 pick. Pioli gets Cassel (is this already a done deal?) and keeps a first rounder at.....#23!!! and the Panthers get Stafford.
DW Toys
If I am understanding this correct, this scenario would only make sense if you figure the Panthers value Stafford more than Cassel. Otherwise, it would make more sense for the Pats and Panthers to do a straight trade of Cassel and Peppers.
Panthers get the proven QB in Cassel instead of tossing a dart on Stafford. Pats get Peppers and keep their own 1st.
Re: [FREUD ALERT?] “Even though we’re three, we could be at 23,” Pioli said.
I think Pioli is playing his cards and sending a message to the pats. That message being he will not give us the three for Cassel, but he will give the three for cassel and the twenty-three (I also believe the chiefs would throw in the thirty-four in that trade).
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I think Pioli is playing his cards and sending a message to the pats. That message being he will not give us the three for Cassel, but he will give the three for cassel and the twenty-three (I also believe the chiefs would throw in the thirty-four in that trade).
Considering Scott and Bill are close friends, I doubt he's "sending the Pats a message".
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Re: [FREUD ALERT?] “Even though we’re three, we could be at 23,” Pioli said.
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OK. I felt that a swap of picks and their second gets the deal done with K.C. and Scott keeps a first rounder. Now we shop that pick to Carolina for Peppers and they get Stafford to groom under the Jakester. Carolina does not have a first rounder either. Everyone thinks that the Lions will go Stafford.....Why would they do that when they had a better team and drafted Harrington and he looks like he came back from a very rough tour in Afghanistan to date? He has never been the same. An 0-16 team is not going to fix itself overnight with a QB. They need too many things. Think how Long helped the Dolphins. The Lions actually do have the makings of a decent O-Line. Monroe would solidify it. They can let Culpepper have another year. The Rams have a QB that if they had some new weapons and some O-Line help they could flourish better. They have a great RB. So I say they could go Crabtree for the sexy pick or OT Jason Smith from Baylor if Pace retires or they cut him. Stafford would be a bad investment for them there. So I can see Stafford falling to third.
We get Peppers and the #34 pick. Pioli gets Cassel (is this already a done deal?) and keeps a first rounder at.....#23!!! and the Panthers get Stafford.
DW Toys
Trading the #3 pick for Peppers doesn't make sense to me. A 30 year old DE who wants to convert to 3-4 OLB, with his salary issues? I'm sorry, I'm all for Peppers if we can make it work, but not for that deal.
#3, #34, #47 and #58 would be a sick first day. Even better if we can trade back with Jax for #8 and #40 and end up with #8, #34, #40, #47 and #58. My dream:
8: BJ Raji DT
34: Sean Smith CB/S, or possibly Alphonso Smith/DJ Moore CB or Louis Delmas/William Moore S
40: Eben Britton OT or Alex Mack OG/C
47: Best available LB prospect among Connor Barwin, Clint Sintim, Larry English or Clay Matthews
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Re: [FREUD ALERT?] “Even though we’re three, we could be at 23,” Pioli said.
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LBs can be gotten throughout the draft. Premium LOTs and Richard Seymours require top 10 picks. The Pats are seldom there. When they are, you take the Big Uglies. As Bill says "...God made only so many fast, quick, big men...".
and where do premium LOT's get you?
2006 - ferguson at #5 or marcus mcneill at #50?
2005 - brown at #13 or roos at #41?
2004 - gallery at #2 or starks at #75 or jason peters at (undrafted)?
sure there are guys who are perennial probowlers but when has tying up huge resources at OT ever equated to an incremental improvement of a team?
in my opinion, ''good enough" works much better at OT than at many other positions
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