BradyManny

Reiss updates with more analysis, this time from Dan Reeves:

Part IV: What is Matt Cassel worth in a trade? - Reiss' Pieces - Boston.com

While I do agree with some of the caveats Reeves lists, I still think ultimately we are likely to get a 1st - if not this year, then 2010 - which frankly, would be almost preferable.

tanked_as_usual

opinions are like bungholes.....everyone has one

BradyManny

True, but at least Reiss is asking pretty informed guys.

Here's a recap:

Lombardi: High first rounder + more
Mariucci: First rounder + more
Miller: Second rounder as a conditional which could become first
Reeves: Second rounder

I'd throw Kiper in there, but his opinion is generally worthless, so I'll stick to the four above. The average opinion would be at least a first rounder, and as we all know, it only takes one team to up the ante.

PATSYLICIOUS

I'm gonna miss this goofball

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CanadianPat'sFan

Wow after that I would expect at least three first rounders after that performance

On a serious note to get a successful NFL QB on you roster has to be worth a first and a second at least so I think Mariucci is the closest.

nantucketguy

I dont think we WANT a 1st rounder for '10. We need players now. if you think about it, we have a unique window here...2-3 years left before I think we start to see a decline in the team. Dont get me wrong, I have faith in BB! and I think we'll continue to be good. But we have a GREAT team now. Moss has got 2 years left on his contract and prob only two years before something goes. Same with our OL. Brady...who knows. This, I think, was supposed to be our SB year, especially after last year, but we trade Cassel...we need players now! Some draft picks are good, but we need defensive starters to have run at a couple more SB's. I love the Pats, but anything less than 2 outta the next 3 SB's, we're in it...or its dissappointment.
I know alot of you might not agree, but dynasty's dont last forever. Its a miracle they come at all with the cap. What we get for Cassel might determine how good we are next year. Harrison is done, Seau and Bruschi done. Even tho TB is coming back, I only see him idealy in 3rd down and short situations. AND we all know our corners suck. Sorry no other way of putting that. Even Vrabel and thomas were not the players this year that they were 07. Other than our DL, mayo, thomas, and meriwether, our current guys need to be next years back ups!

nantucketguy

and I think we look into the rights for Vick. We trade a 5th pick for his rights, redevelop him as our back up, then this time next year, we trade him too.

ctpatsfan77

The Patriots philosophy is not about dynasties. It's about being in the playoff hunt every single year, and seeing as the last time the Patriots played a regular season game when they were eliminated from the playoffs was in 2000, I'd say they've done a good job of that.

If BB decides that 2010 picks are more useful (if the Pats go deep into the playoffs, then their ability to sign UFAs will be limited unless a new CBA is worked out), then IBBIT.

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nantucketguy

Falcons want to trade his rights