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Old 01-19-2009, 12:02 PM   #21
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Old 01-19-2009, 12:14 PM   #22
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Let's review: ND signed Weis to an extension valued at at least $30 MM in 2005: Notre Dame extends Weis through 2015 - College Football - ESPN

So now they're willing to let him go for at least $21 MM and sign another coach for God knows how much?

Good for Gruden, and good for ND if they pull it off, but I'd be shocked if they could absorb that kind of financial hit.
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Let's review: ND signed Weis to an extension valued at at least $30 MM in 2005: Notre Dame extends Weis through 2015 - College Football - ESPN

So now they're willing to let him go for at least $21 MM and sign another coach for God knows how much?

Good for Gruden, and good for ND if they pull it off, but I'd be shocked if they could absorb that kind of financial hit.
Read the other article on this page about Weis.

They are not on the hook to him for much. College extensions are not valued the same way as the pros. In college, the coaches get paid a smaller amount as salary (in Weis's case, he gets $500k a year) and then they make the rest of their package through speaking fees, coaches clinics and especially a clothing deal, as with Nike.

ND would be on the hook for $500k and 6 more years.
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Charlie's ND contract provided enough money for Charlie, his children and his gradchildren for life.

That being said, Charlie likes coaching.

BTW, I don't expect Charlie to come back. He remembers how hard-nosed the patriots were about give him what he considered reasonable pay when he was thinking of leaving. There is no particular reason for him to come back. He can make plenty of money elsewhere in at least as good situation.

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charlie's nd contract provided enough money for charlie, his children and his gradchildren for life.

That being said, charlie likes coaching.

Btw, i don't expect charlie to come back. He remembers how hard-nosed the patriots were about give him what he considered reasonable pay when he was thinking of leaving. There is no particular reason for him to come back. He can make plenty of money elsewhere in at least as good situation.
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If he becomes available, you can bet that Tom Brady will put in a call to Charlie. I would love to have him back.

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Read the other article on this page about Weis.

They are not on the hook to him for much. College extensions are not valued the same way as the pros. In college, the coaches get paid a smaller amount as salary (in Weis's case, he gets $500k a year) and then they make the rest of their package through speaking fees, coaches clinics and especially a clothing deal, as with Nike.

ND would be on the hook for $500k and 6 more years.
Thanks for setting me straight. Still a sizable amount of money, though. If ND feels it's worth it, that says a lot.
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Just a note this turned up a few minutes ago on PFT as well:

ProFootballTalk.com - GRUDEN TO SOUTH BEND?

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Once the Bucs crashed and burned and missed the playoffs, we suggested that Notre Dame ultimately could choose to dump coach Charlie Weis and hire Tampa coach Jon Gruden.

Gruden is now available, and CFT’s John Taylor floated the possibility of Gruden and the Golden Dome on Friday night.

There’s a published report in a “real” newspaper that puts some meat on this bone, hinting that Weis could get the heave-ho after he signs his recruiting class.

If it happens, maybe Gruden would ask to change the “F” word in the team’s “Fighting Irish” nickname.
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Go for it Notre Dame, a guaranteed EPIC FAIL for your program.
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What the hell is this supposed to mean

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