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Old 01-16-2009, 01:08 PM   #1
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He talked about it on WEEI earlier today (around the 10 minute mark).

His prediction, for whatever it's worth, is that the Patriots should be able to get more than Atlanta got for Matt Schaub (two seconds + a two-spot jump in the first). He thinks that Pioli might well try to make a play for Cassel, but would also likely try to move down in the draft if he can.

He also suggested the possibility that the Patriots might try to trade Cassel for a swap of draft picks (e.g., Cassel and their first for the #3 overall), although he doesn't think it's likely (noting correctly that the Pats don't like picking that high, but also noting correctly that BB did quite well with SF's pick last year).
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Old 01-16-2009, 01:13 PM   #2
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Of course, we did well with the SF pick after trading it down; regardless, if we could get what Atlanta got for Schaub I'd be thrilled so if we can get more . . .
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Cassel stock is raising right now, but we have review certain things:
Minnesota: Brad Clueless (thanks walterfootball) is too stupid to see TJ is not the answer
KC: The 3rd overall selection is expensive and the 34th isn't enough for Cassel
DET: The Ford family (Andre Ware, Scott Mitchell, Joey Harrington, Kitna, Culpepper, McMahon . . . .)
TB: Cassel isn't old enough to be a Gruden's guy
CHI: Dreams with McNabb
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Cassel stock is raising right now, but we have review certain things:
Minnesota: Brad Clueless (thanks walterfootball) is too stupid to see TJ is not the answer
KC: The 3rd overall selection is expensive and the 34th isn't enough for Cassel
DET: The Ford family (Andre Ware, Scott Mitchell, Joey Harrington, Kitna, Culpepper, McMahon . . . .)
TB: Cassel isn't old enough to be a Gruden's guy
CHI: Dreams with McNabb
KC could, say, trade down to #7 or so. The #7 pick didn't work out too badly for New England last year.

On a more serious note, though, I could see the Pats taking KC's 2nd in 2009 and a conditional pick in 2010 (e.g., Cassel reaches the playoffs--which would probably mean something like a 9-game improvement--and the Pats get KC's 1st in 2010).
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KC could, say, trade down to #7 or so. The #7 pick didn't work out too badly for New England last year.

On a more serious note, though, I could see the Pats taking KC's 2nd in 2009 and a conditional pick in 2010 (e.g., Cassel reaches the playoffs--which would probably mean something like a 9-game improvement--and the Pats get KC's 1st in 2010).
That seems to be not quite enough for Cassels value.
They should absolutely get a first round from somebody.
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Cassel stock is raising right now, but we have review certain things:
Minnesota: Brad Clueless (thanks walterfootball) is too stupid to see TJ is not the answer
KC: The 3rd overall selection is expensive and the 34th isn't enough for Cassel
DET: The Ford family (Andre Ware, Scott Mitchell, Joey Harrington, Kitna, Culpepper, McMahon . . . .)
TB: Cassel isn't old enough to be a Gruden's guy
CHI: Dreams with McNabb
San Fran is 10th overall and we did good at #10 last year. Plus that would put Cassel in the NFC and since we just played the NFC West this year, we would not see him for a few years.

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San Fran is 10th overall and we did good at #10 last year. Plus that would put Cassel in the NFC and since we just played the NFC West this year, we would not see him for a few years.
That's one of the two best fits, trade/draft value-wise.

The other is Detroit -- #20 + #33.

Those are trade packages which could make somebody go:

A. Is that cheaper than one would pay for a very top QB prospect in the draft?
B. How does Cassell compare in value to a top QB prospect in the draft?
C. Do salary considerations change the tentative inference from A&B?

and decide Cassell was a bargain compared w/ drafting a top-three QB.
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I am beginning to think that Arizona, Carolina, and Philly might be the logical stops.

McNabb can't seem to get over his benching. Also, contrary to Donovan ballwashers, Philly does have acceptable weapons.

Who would you give the money to, young MC or 38 year old KW?

It's hard to believe Jake's playoff performance will go the wine/cheese route and get better with age.
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San Fran is 10th overall and we did good at #10 last year. Plus that would put Cassel in the NFC and since we just played the NFC West this year, we would not see him for a few years.
I can't see a team giving up #10 for Cassel, but if they did, it'd be quite a heist.
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San Fran is 10th overall and we did good at #10 last year. Plus that would put Cassel in the NFC and since we just played the NFC West this year, we would not see him for a few years.
Cassel would love to play in San Francisco. The Patriots made out

quite well the last time they traded a quarterback to San Francisco.
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