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***FreeTedWilliams*** · 01-14-2009, 12:58 PM

Source: Herm Edwards not ruled out as Kansas City Chiefs coach yet - ESPN

A source with knowledge of the team's thinking told ESPN's Michael Smith it has not been ruled out that Herm Edwards could return for the final year of his contract as coach of the Kansas City Chiefs.

Conventional wisdom is that Scott Pioli, who is expected to be introduced as the team's new general manager later Wednesday, will want to hire his own guy, but a source said Pioli is coming in with an open mind.

HE'S GONNA KEEP HERM!!!!!!

***Leave No Doubt*** · 01-14-2009, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by FreeTedWilliams

Source: Herm Edwards not ruled out as Kansas City Chiefs coach yet - ESPN

A source with knowledge of the team's thinking told ESPN's Michael Smith it has not been ruled out that Herm Edwards could return for the final year of his contract as coach of the Kansas City Chiefs.

Conventional wisdom is that Scott Pioli, who is expected to be introduced as the team's new general manager later Wednesday, will want to hire his own guy, but a source said Pioli is coming in with an open mind.

HE'S GONNA KEEP HERM!!!!!!

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..... Ohpleasegod let it be true

Pats726 · 01-14-2009, 01:03 PM

Not sure that isn't a bad move...with only 1 year left...I think since he is still around with Pioli's hiring,he will stay...if he was going to go it would have happened...

***apple strudel*** · 01-14-2009, 01:08 PM

If Pioli's guy isn't available until next year, then keeping Herm for a year is fine. They're probably not going to be very good next year anyway, so he'd be a gatekeeper coach. Plus Pioli generates good will with coaches by letting him go gracefully.

***j00fek*** · 01-14-2009, 01:51 PM

why not keep him, hire cowher next yr

TealSox · 01-14-2009, 02:17 PM

Would Cowher come to KC considering he would want some of the powers, if not all the power, that Pioli holds in terms of player personnel? I don't even think that Pioli is looking for a guy like Cowher or Billick to lead his team at this stage of his career. Look at Dmitrioff's hiring in Atlanta. If that can shed any light on the preferences of Pioli, I just don't see Cowher coming in to KC.

On the same note, I see Herm Edwards in a shade of the same light as Cowher. And if he is on the "proverbial" chopping block, why not just cut him now and get the new coach in their with the new system instead of wasting another year of contract money and talent. Unless your looking forward to a high draft pick in 2010 or you think the AFC West is up for grabs (and having some consistency on the team will make them more competitive than tearing it all down) than keep the guy around.

On a happy note for Edwards, if released, he could spend some time with his buddy Dungy this off season.

***maverick4*** · 01-14-2009, 02:25 PM

I would keep Herm too. Pioli essentially has a free pass his first year or two, why not have Herm run his team into a horrible record and then get some top picks to build for a great 3rd year and continued run?

signbabybrady · 01-14-2009, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TealSox

Would Cowher come to KC considering he would want some of the powers, if not all the power, that Pioli holds in terms of player personnel? I don't even think that Pioli is looking for a guy like Cowher or Billick to lead his team at this stage of his career. Look at Dmitrioff's hiring in Atlanta. If that can shed any light on the preferences of Pioli, I just don't see Cowher coming in to KC.

On the same note, I see Herm Edwards in a shade of the same light as Cowher. And if he is on the "proverbial" chopping block, why not just cut him now and get the new coach in their with the new system instead of wasting another year of contract money and talent. Unless your looking forward to a high draft pick in 2010 or you think the AFC West is up for grabs (and having some consistency on the team will make them more competitive than tearing it all down) than keep the guy around.

On a happy note for Edwards, if released, he could spend some time with his buddy Dungy this off season.

You don't think the AFC west is up for grabs? the leader finished 8-8. With a good offseason this team could compete for the division. Though I think you can compete for the division with or with out Herm. The key here is whether Herm is in line philisophically with Pioli.

TealSox · 01-14-2009, 02:38 PM

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You don't think the AFC west is up for grabs? the leader finished 8-8. With a good offseason this team could compete for the division. Though I think you can compete for the division with or with out Herm. The key here is whether Herm is in line philisophically with Pioli.

Agreed.

I guess this is what it ultimately comes down to: can the Chiefs win the division in 2009 under Herm more likely than under a new head coach?

You can also inject this thought into the process.

If they did win the AFC West next year under Herm or were competitive enough to fight for a playoff spot, could Pioli afford to release/cut/fire him in 2010? Therefore, could Herm earn a contract extension?

Would Pioli come under fire for not signing him to an extension under these circumstances?

Or would another team bail Pioli out and sign Edwards as their head coach, taking the decision out of Pioli's hands all together?

I can only conclude that you might has well get a new guy in there to avoid all that drama and incorporate the Bill Parcell's three year plan (in which became a one year plan).

signbabybrady · 01-14-2009, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TealSox

Agreed.

I guess this is what it ultimately comes down to: can the Chiefs win the division in 2009 under Herm more likely than under a new head coach?

You can also inject this thought into the process.

If they did win the AFC West next year under Herm or were competitive enough to fight for a playoff spot, could Pioli afford to release/cut/fire him in 2010? Therefore, could Herm earn a contract extension?

Would Pioli come under fire for not signing him to an extension under these circumstances?

Or would another team bail Pioli out and sign Edwards as their head coach, taking the decision out of Pioli's hands all together?

I can only conclude that you might has well get a new guy in there to avoid all that drama and incorporate the Bill Parcell's three year plan (in which became a one year plan).

That makes sense.....So if Pioli gets in there and likes Herm and wants to work with him than maybe it would be a good Idea to extend is contract another year or two.

Personally I would want to chose my own guy but you have to consider what the orginization thinks of Herm from the players, other coaches, and owners.