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Old 01-08-2009, 09:54 PM   #1
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I was stunned tonight when Tom Curran stated on "Sports Tonight" that the Patriots have allocated $68 million in cap space to 7 players. He said it twice and made it a point to mention it on the show.

I have the 7 players as
Brady, Tom 14,627,280
Green, Jarvis 5,007,280
Light, Matt 5,508,950
Moss, Randy 10,507,280
Seymour, Richard 9,792,280
Thomas, Adalius 6,407,280
Vrabel, Mike 4,393,280

for a total of $56,243,630.

I freely admit that my numbers are never 100% correct but if Curran is correct then I will be more off than I have been in the recent past. My numbers for Light and Vrabel should be off as I am considering their Pro Bowl incentives to be NTLBE for the 2009 season. They were LTBE for the 2008 season. I am not 100% confident in my number for Ty Warren but I really doubt that it is off by $12 million.

I hope that in the near future that Curran will provide more details.

Disclaimers - I should say that I am a fan of his work. He told me that he has visited my cap pages.
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Old 01-08-2009, 09:58 PM   #2
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I like Curran, too. Not really worried if he's correct b/c so many of these figures are easily massaged. The Patriots are in perfectly fine cap shape. They run a fiscally sound operation.
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i have an overwhelming sense that curran wants the patriots to perform poorly. everything we hear from this guy about the patriots is negative...no?
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hmm, interesting...

althhough ill trust miguels numbers more then currans...
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If he was counting Cassel instead of Vrabel that would explain the 12 million.
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I like Curran, too. Not really worried if he's correct b/c so many of these figures are easily massaged. The Patriots are in perfectly fine cap shape. They run a fiscally sound operation.
Well, see, there's a bit of a problem w/ that theory -- unless the league and NFLPA can come to a new CBA agreement, the 2009 season will be the last before an uncapped year, meaning NO money can be converted to bonuses and deferred to later years.

This means that in order to get cap relief on a players' contract, that player would need to take an actual pay-cut, and not just restructure.
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If he was counting Cassel instead of Vrabel that would explain the 12 million.
Yeah, he might have assumed the Franchise number.
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Yeah, he might have assumed the Franchise number.
Thats what he did - substitute Cassel for Vrabs and it sums up.

By the way, why does Jarvis Green make so much? Nice pass rusher and even a starter on half of NFL team, admittedly, but still, thats a lot of cash not a traditional 3 down lineman
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If he was counting Cassel instead of Vrabel that would explain the 12 million.
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Yeah, he might have assumed the Franchise number.
you're probably right
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Thats what he did - substitute Cassel for Vrabs and it sums up.

By the way, why does Jarvis Green make so much? Nice pass rusher and even a starter on half of NFL team, admittedly, but still, thats a lot of cash not a traditional 3 down lineman
usually later years of a players contract usually have greater amounts given to players. the players and agents like to see the bigger numbers, while the teams know that by then they can make the decision to cut a guy or not. also, the teams know the cap space grows so it's not as big of a deal to have higher amounts in later years
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